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Re: L19 2011 tournament: PAIRINGS and RESULTS
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:29 pm
by Tofu
Round 1:
Tofu beat ChradH by resignation in a very tough and competitive game.
http://files.gokgs.com/games/2011/7/21/Tofu-ChradH.sgf
Re: L19 2011 tournament: PAIRINGS and RESULTS
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:39 pm
by daniel_the_smith
Tofu wrote:Round 1:
Tofu beat ChradH by resignation in a very tough and competitive game.
Unsolicited advice for both players: W28 looks wrong. B35 @ G5 would have made the game very tough for white!
Re: L19 2011 tournament: PAIRINGS and RESULTS
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:43 pm
by tj86430
daniel_the_smith wrote:B35 @ G5 would have made the game very tough for white!
I thought B113 @ J11 (or J10) would also have made the game very tough for white
Re: L19 2011 tournament: PAIRINGS and RESULTS
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:50 pm
by daniel_the_smith
tj86430 wrote:I thought B113 @ J11 (or J10) would also have made the game very tough for white
Yeah, and although I think that's normally about as severe as the one I pointed out, the stakes are actually much higher, so that's more costly in this game... Always take points that both weak groups want, if you can! (I hadn't looked through the entire game.)
Re: L19 2011 tournament: PAIRINGS and RESULTS
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:22 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
And 157 at B6 looks like death.
Re: L19 2011 tournament: PAIRINGS and RESULTS
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:40 pm
by schultz
Oren and I have scheduled our game for Monday, July 25 - 8:00PM MDT (7PM PDT).
I assume we'll be playing in the Lifein19x19 room.
Let me know if this doesn't match up Oren!
Re: L19 2011 tournament: PAIRINGS and RESULTS
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:38 am
by Laman
here is beta version of alternative
tournament bracket, designed for self-administration (based on the Araban's table)
however, i was pretty lazy when writing it, so it may contain various bugs and you should definitely post your set dates and final results here as a backup.
also: losers' bracket is not yet prepared, because i don't know how it will exactly look. background colours are yet to be inserted semi-manually by me. once inserted data cannot be automatically changed, so be careful when sending them and PM me if anything goes wrong. i was indecisive about who should be authorized to insert data, in the end it is allowed to anyone with the password: "19x19". i hope there won't be any malicious users inserting nonsenses, otherwise i would have to come up with a more sophisticated protection
if anyone wanted to take my code and improve it, just PM me and i will send you the source code
Re: L19 2011 tournament: PAIRINGS and RESULTS
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:17 am
by ketchup
Whoops, guess I missed this! Although, probably would not have participated even if I noticed earlier. Too rusty. Just dropping by to give a good luck to all participants involved!
Re: L19 2011 tournament: PAIRINGS and RESULTS
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:35 am
by HermanHiddema
Well, seems I was not the only one inspired to write some code for this.

Anyway, it is moot now, but here's my attempt:
http://hiddema.nl/l19.html(note: this is not the same bracket that Joaz made, as it is auto-generated)
You can drag & drop the KGS nicknames to empty cells to enter results, or drop them on top of another player to swap their positions. There's no backend to it (yet), and a lot of automation could be added (such as automatically moving losers into their correct place).
The html file can be used completely standalone. Just drag&drop some results, then save the html file locally, and it'll remember the results and still work.
Re: L19 2011 tournament: PAIRINGS and RESULTS
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:42 am
by Joaz Banbeck
Although we all probably appreciate the easy-to-read versions like this:
...and this:
...and this:
...please note that official records are being kept in this thread, in posts like this:
http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewto ... 406#p71406
Re: L19 2011 tournament: PAIRINGS and RESULTS
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:10 pm
by Suji
Karaklis and I played our game. He won by 62.5 points. I was black, he was white.
Here's the game:
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[2400]OT[5x40 byo-yomi]
PW[karaklis]PB[Sujisan]BR[13k]DT[2011-07-22]PC[The KGS Go Server at
http://www.gokgs.com/]C[karaklis [?]: good game, have fun
Sujisan [13k?]: you too
]RE[W+62.50]
;B[pd]BL[2378.243]
;W[pp]WL[2394.903]
;B[cd]BL[2339.292]
;W[dp]WL[2387.118]
;B[cn]BL[2310.613]
;W[fq]WL[2366.764]
;B[dj]BL[2265.266]
;W[ec]WL[2345.498]
;B[de]BL[2212.903]
;W[hd]WL[2325.225]
;B[mq]BL[1994.392]
;W[kq]WL[2291.376]
;B[pq]BL[1879.645]
;W[oq]WL[2256.338]
;B[op]BL[1859.351]
;W[or]WL[2205.616]
;B[qq]BL[1777.615]
;W[np]WL[2143.198]
;B[oo]BL[1747.653]
;W[mp]WL[2107.271]
;B[pj]BL[1583.172]
;W[nc]WL[2083.903]
;B[pg]BL[1510.255]
;W[oe]WL[2050.163]
;B[pe]BL[1456.809]
;W[cl]WL[1961.113]
;B[dl]BL[1377.172]
;W[cm]WL[1940.637]
;B[dm]BL[1331.235]
;W[bn]WL[1931.133]
;B[dn]BL[1272.029]
;W[bo]WL[1891.225]
;B[ck]BL[1196.008]
;W[qk]WL[1867.326]
;B[qj]BL[1174.464]
;W[pk]WL[1850.206]
;B[ok]BL[1111.142]
;W[ol]WL[1832.383]
;B[nk]BL[1062.851]
;W[nl]WL[1808.714]
;B[pm]BL[1031.965]
;W[pl]WL[1693.941]
;B[qm]BL[1013.997]
;W[mk]WL[1641.342]
;B[mj]BL[997.66]
;W[nj]WL[1595.097]
;B[oj]BL[995.014]
;W[lj]WL[1592.853]
;B[mi]BL[957.91]
;W[ll]WL[1584.862]
;B[ik]BL[837.364]
;W[pb]WL[1536.941]
;B[qc]BL[813.495]
;W[nh]WL[1506.514]
;B[mh]BL[759.236]
;W[ng]WL[1491.742]
;B[mg]BL[738.245]
;W[mf]WL[1453.453]
;B[ni]BL[680.844]
;W[lf]WL[1397.869]
;B[of]BL[595.051]
;W[nf]WL[1387.803]
;B[od]BL[577.987]
;W[nd]WL[1380.128]
;B[ne]BL[522.714]
;W[me]WL[1375.684]
;B[ge]BL[487.223]
;W[ee]WL[1337.461]
;B[ef]BL[465.092]
;W[fe]WL[1328.328]
;B[ff]BL[452.812]
;W[gf]WL[1326.031]
;B[he]BL[326.705]
;W[gg]WL[1315.218]
;B[fh]BL[274.999]
;W[gd]WL[1292.524]
;B[if]BL[234.618]
;W[ig]WL[1277.521]
;B[jg]BL[207.665]
;W[ie]WL[1249.19]
;B[jf]BL[191.675]
;W[hf]WL[1245.585]
;B[jh]BL[138.807]
;W[gn]WL[1216.968]
;B[gm]BL[100.037]
;W[hn]WL[1202.097]
;B[hm]BL[92.471]
;W[jn]WL[1165.11]
;B[db]BL[22.241]
;W[dc]WL[1152.772]
;B[cc]BL[8.301]
;W[cb]WL[1150.072]
;B[bb]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[eb]WL[1147.631]
;B[ca]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[rk]WL[1115.462]
;B[rj]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[rn]WL[1108.622]
;B[rm]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[qo]WL[1097.487]
;B[po]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[qp]WL[1080.077]
;B[rp]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[sj]WL[1071.503]
;B[si]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[sk]WL[1068.469]
;B[ri]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[sm]WL[1065.104]
;B[qn]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[nn]WL[1012.752]
;B[ro]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[df]WL[987.248]
;B[ce]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[fg]WL[977.272]
;B[eg]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[eh]WL[971.431]
;B[dg]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[dh]WL[968.696]
;B[cg]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[fi]WL[956.464]
;B[gh]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[hi]WL[948.757]
;B[ih]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[hh]WL[946.503]
;B[hg]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[ch]WL[938.714]
;B[bh]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[bg]WL[934.608]
;B[cf]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[bi]WL[931.535]
;B[bf]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[qb]WL[906.937]
;B[rb]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[ek]WL[822.502]
;B[dk]BL[40]OB[5]
;W[fm]WL[782.562]
;B[fl]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[fn]WL[769.375]
;B[el]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[gl]WL[762.268]
;B[gk]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[hl]WL[759.783]
;B[im]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[in]WL[742.642]
;B[jm]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[km]WL[739.616]
;B[jk]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[qr]WL[695.897]
;B[rr]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[pr]WL[686.766]
;B[ii]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[sn]WL[642.454]
;B[ag]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[bk]WL[625.262]
;B[bj]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[bl]WL[590.946]
;B[ci]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[pc]WL[561.395]
;B[rd]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[ei]WL[556.951]
;B[ke]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[kd]WL[553.062]
;B[ej]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[je]WL[537.408]
;B[kf]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[eo]WL[505.289]
;B[kh]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[kj]WL[499.189]
;B[jj]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[oh]WL[493.89]
;B[ph]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[hj]WL[483.048]
;B[oi]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[rs]WL[476.24]
;B[sr]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[ea]WL[443.107]
;B[hk]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[da]WL[440.391]
;B[cb]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[ra]WL[417.99]
;B[sb]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[so]WL[342.209]
;B[sp]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[sl]WL[340.61]
;B[ki]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[kk]WL[325.203]
;B[sa]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[qa]WL[320.087]
;B[oc]BL[40]OB[2]
;W[ob]WL[300.389]
;B[gj]BL[40]OB[1]
;W[gi]WL[296.879]
;B[fj]BL[40]OB[1]
;W[nb]WL[250.567]
;B[lg]BL[40]OB[1]
;W[le]WL[236.729]
;B[oe]BL[40]OB[1]
;W[on]WL[218.891]
;B[no]BL[40]OB[1]
;W[mo]WL[217.097]
;B[pn]BL[40]OB[1]
;W[ak]WL[189.858]
;B[aj]BL[40]OB[1]
;W[di]WL[184.906]
;B[ai]BL[40]OB[1]
;W[co]WL[162.549]
;B[do]BL[40]OB[1]
;W[jl]WL[156.963]
;B[il]BL[40]OB[1]
;W[kl]WL[153.091]
;B[li]BL[40]OB[1]
;W[dd]WL[144.802]
;B[og]BL[40]OB[1]
;W[ld]WL[118.269]
;B[rl]BL[40]OB[1]
;W[om]WL[112.539]
;B[ql]BL[40]OB[1]
;W[qs]WL[88.813]
;B[ss]BL[40]OB[1]
;W[ig]WL[54.4]
;B[en]BL[40]OB[1]
;W[hg]WL[46.475]
;B[em]BL[40]OB[1]
;W[ij]WL[23.083]
;B[]BL[40]OB[1]
;W[]WL[23.083]TW[fa][ga][ha][ia][ja][ka][la][ma][na][oa][pa][fb][gb][hb][ib][jb][kb][lb][mb][fc][gc][hc][ic][jc][kc][lc][mc][ed][fd][id][jd][md][ge][he][fh][gh][lk][al][ml][am][bm][lm][mm][nm][an][kn][ln][mn][ao][fo][go][ho][io][jo][ko][lo][ap][bp][cp][ep][fp][gp][hp][ip][jp][kp][lp][aq][bq][cq][dq][eq][gq][hq][iq][jq][lq][mq][nq][ar][br][cr][dr][er][fr][gr][hr][ir][jr][kr][lr][mr][nr][as][bs][cs][ds][es][fs][gs][hs][is][js][ks][ls][ms][ns][os][ps]TB[aa][ba][ab][ac][bc][rc][sc][ad][bd][qd][sd][ae][be][qe][re][se][af][df][pf][qf][rf][sf][bg][kg][qg][rg][sg][ah][lh][qh][rh][sh][bi][ji][pi][qi][cj][nj][ek][fk][gl][hl][qo][pp][qp][rq][sq]C[karaklis [?]: thanks
Sujisan [13k?]: gg
Sujisan [13k?]: I enjoyed the game...I hope you did too
karaklis [?]: yes, great game.
karaklis [?]: you seem to be stronger than just 13k
Sujisan [13k?]: I do?
karaklis [?]: hm, difficult to say, but i would rouglhy say, 60 points is about 4 stones
Sujisan [13k?]: hmmm
karaklis [?]: so, either you're about 11k or I am about 9k (could be possible as well, I havent had practice for a long time)
karaklis [?]: ok, my family needs me. see you next time on L19

karaklis [?]: bye
Sujisan [13k?]: ok can I post the game for a review
karaklis [?]: ok thanks
Sujisan [13k?]: thanks
])
He dismantled me pretty easily.

I will also be posting in the analysis forum since I want to get better. I also want to wish Karaklis good luck.
Re: L19 2011 tournament: PAIRINGS and RESULTS
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:23 pm
by Laman
HermanHiddema wrote:Well, seems I was not the only one inspired to write some code for this.

Anyway, it is moot now, ...
i don't think it is moot. if nothing else, your AJAX looks much better than my php and is much more comfortable to use. i can't compete with that

Re: L19 2011 tournament: PAIRINGS and RESULTS
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:33 am
by Sevis
My game against perceval will be next Saturday, sorry for the delay.
Re: L19 2011 tournament: PAIRINGS and RESULTS
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:28 am
by tj86430
Jordus hasn't read my PM's since Wednesday, so I don't know when our game will be. Hopefully during next week, since after that I will be on a summer cabin with unreliable internet.
Re: L19 2011 tournament: PAIRINGS and RESULTS
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:38 am
by Aphelion
Aphelion vs Hushfield will be in the L19 room in 1 hour, at July 23 10:40AM EST
Update: My game vs Hushfield has begun.