Life In 19x19

ez4u wrote:Is it a feature or just a mistake that the results page does not list the player numbers, so that you can not easily tell who played whom? Is this a setting in OpenGotha that could be quickly changed?

After each game, there is something like this: b0+45. B means the player had black, the number is the current rank of the opponent, and a plus sign means the player won the game and a minus indicates a loss, so it's not so hard to see who played whom and who won. I don't know what the zero is for.

I think it's changed and that before it didn't list the ranks when two players were tied. So you had fifteen players tied after one round, and you couldn't easily see who "b0+12" was indicating.

daal wrote:

ez4u wrote:Is it a feature or just a mistake that the results page does not list the player numbers, so that you can not easily tell who played whom? Is this a setting in OpenGotha that could be quickly changed?

After each game, there is something like this: b0+45. B means the player had black, the number is the current rank of the opponent, and a plus sign means the player won the game and a minus indicates a loss, so it's not so hard to see who played whom and who won. I don't know what the zero is for.

The 0 is the handicap. The usual format would be 45+/b0, 45+/b or just 45+, I have no idea why OpenGotha is doing it backwards like this, it's confusing.

Cornel Burzo, provided his games from EGC2011 http://gokifu.com/player/Cornel+Burzo Main 5 rounds + team championship .

Blitz Final
http://gokifu.com/s/mdb - Jan Simara(5d)-Ilya_Shikshin(7d)(w) W+R
http://gokifu.com/s/mda - Jeon Sang Young(7d) - Christian Pop(7d) (w) W+T

topazg wrote:OMG:

http://gokifu.com/s/m8q

Wow, Nikola Mitic plays this game really really strongly. Particularly the sequence from 72 to 98 is really powerful. He loses only by komi, and that against a 9 dan professional. Hats off!

By the way - I'm assuming the last 8 moves are a mistake from the scribe? And what about komi? If komi would indeed be 0.5 points as the record says, black actually wins this game!

Yes, it should be B+2.5, not W+2.5, Nikola won the game.

HermanHiddema wrote:Yes, it should be B+2.5, not W+2.5, Nikola won the game.

Fixed this ISSUE

bazilxp wrote:Cornel Burzo, provided his games from EGC2011 http://gokifu.com/player/Cornel+Burzo Main 5 rounds + team championship .

Blitz Final
http://gokifu.com/s/mdb - Jan Simara(5d)-Ilya_Shikshin(7d)(w) W+R
http://gokifu.com/s/mda - Jeon Sang Young(7d) - Christian Pop(7d) (w) W+T

# Main Event Round 1-5

Timur Sankin, contributed his games
http://gokifu.com/player/Timur%20Sankin

Inredible how Catalin won today, everyone on kgs counted him out in the midgame. So impressive.

p2501 wrote:Inredible how Catalin won today, everyone on kgs counted him out in the midgame. So impressive.

Korean on the first board won by .5 and Korean on the second board lost by .5

By the way, is it correct that after seven rounds the top eight Europeans will play a knockout for the title? Strangely, I don't see mention of such a knockout anywhere, though I do recall it being announced here.

gaius wrote:By the way, is it correct that after seven rounds the top eight Europeans will play a knockout for the title? Strangely, I don't see mention of such a knockout anywhere, though I do recall it being announced here.

yes, you are correct. spectators discussed it in one of kgs broadcasts today. rules are for example at egf page and also somewhere at egc2011.eu

Laman wrote:

gaius wrote:By the way, is it correct that after seven rounds the top eight Europeans will play a knockout for the title? Strangely, I don't see mention of such a knockout anywhere, though I do recall it being announced here.

yes, you are correct. spectators discussed it in one of kgs broadcasts today. rules are for example at egf page and also somewhere at egc2011.eu

Some more details, based on the current standings:

Players will need at least 39 McMahon points (i.e. at least 5 wins out of 7 games) to qualify for the knock-out, which means that anyone in place 19 or lower (i.e. those top players with at least 3 losses already) is out of the running for the title. All other players have their placement in their own hands.

At the top there are three European players that already have 39 points: Ondrej Silt, Ilja Shikshin and Catalin Taranu. From the group in places 5-18, the fourteen players with with 38 points, an additional six or seven players will reach 39 points (six if Jeon Sang Youn wins his game, seven if he loses). In total, there will therefore be nine or ten players on at least 39 points.

If there are nine such players, the highest seven (based on SOS, then rating) are qualified automatically, while the lowest two will play a relegation game on Wednesday to determine which one of them also enters the knock-out. If there are ten such players, the highest six are qualified automatically, while the lowest four will play in a relegation game on Wednesday for the remaining two places.

The pairing at the top for the next round is obvious: Ondrej will play Catalin, while Ilja plays against Kim. The winner of the first game will have 40 points and run no risk of a relegation game on Wednesday. If Ilja wins against Kim, he will also avoid the risk of a relegation game.

For the next group, those in places 5-18, the pairing is not clear yet, it depends on how the pairing program is set.

HermanHiddema wrote:At the top there are three European players that already have 39 points: Ondrej Silt, Ilja Shikshin and Catalin Taranu. From the group in places 5-18, the fourteen players with with 38 points, an additional six or seven players will reach 39 points (six if Jeon Sang Youn wins his game, seven if he loses). In total, there will therefore be nine or ten players on at least 39 points.

Wow. Good luck to the one who gets to play Jeon. This is a moment where you do NOT want to be paired against a Korean 7-dan...

HermanHiddema wrote:

Laman wrote:

gaius wrote:By the way, is it correct that after seven rounds the top eight Europeans will play a knockout for the title? Strangely, I don't see mention of such a knockout anywhere, though I do recall it being announced here.

yes, you are correct. spectators discussed it in one of kgs broadcasts today. rules are for example at egf page and also somewhere at egc2011.eu

Some more details, based on the current standings:

Players will need at least 39 McMahon points (i.e. at least 5 wins out of 7 games) to qualify for the knock-out, which means that anyone in place 19 or lower (i.e. those top players with at least 3 losses already) is out of the running for the title. All other players have their placement in their own hands.

At the top there are three European players that already have 39 points: Ondrej Silt, Ilja Shikshin and Catalin Taranu. From the group in places 5-18, the fourteen players with with 38 points, an additional six or seven players will reach 39 points (six if Jeon Sang Youn wins his game, seven if he loses). In total, there will therefore be nine or ten players on at least 39 points.

If there are nine such players, the highest seven (based on SOS, then rating) are qualified automatically, while the lowest two will play a relegation game on Wednesday to determine which one of them also enters the knock-out. If there are ten such players, the highest six are qualified automatically, while the lowest four will play in a relegation game on Wednesday for the remaining two places.

The pairing at the top for the next round is obvious: Ondrej will play Catalin, while Ilja plays against Kim. The winner of the first game will have 40 points and run no risk of a relegation game on Wednesday. If Ilja wins against Kim, he will also avoid the risk of a relegation game.

For the next group, those in places 5-18, the pairing is not clear yet, it depends on how the pairing program is set.

I don't think non europeans can go into the knockout group even with sufficient points. Or can they?