Life In 19x19

Posted: **Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:47 am**

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After black makes the two space extension I plan to double-approach the corner. Hm, or maybe I'll enclose my upper right corner, that would be very big.

Posted: **Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:16 am**

daniel_the_smith wrote:
After black makes the two space extension I plan to double-approach the corner.

Tt probably won t make the 2 space extension, that almost all human would make . Who wants to bet ? :mrgreen:

it is funny that fuegos play have been really far from human, yet it did take big fuseki points.

i vote for crazy tenuki, lets say around E6 (just a wild guess)

Go humanity !

Posted: **Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:33 am**

Fuego may play out around K8 like it predicted earlier.

Posted: **Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:47 pm**

Ha! Fuego has Fooled you all! Except Daniel, I guess. He knew what was coming.

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Value: 49.7%

Sequence:

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The only other move Fuego spent any time on was D3, 1% of playouts. Even for :w14:

96% of playouts were on tengen, only 1% on the double approach at O3 and 1% on the 33 invasion at R3.

It seems Fuego sometimes has an issue where it "likes" a particular move in playouts, so even if it decides during search that it isn't good to play, it keeps reconsidering it further down in the tree (as happened in Chew's game with the stones in the upper right). If Fuego were a human, I could imagine it saying something like "I really want to play around K7 or K8, but I know I shouldn't right now. I will later though!" But then the next move the decision gets pushed back again.

FWIW in white's position I would have played R9 last move, pushing from the other direction and making a base. White's stronger than I am though, so I won't say anything

Posted: **Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:10 pm**

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I considered 3-3; that should end with sente for me, but black would get nice shape on the outside and I didn't like that. I'm guessing next fuego will play 3-3, and we'll have a big mess. If fuego lets me have 3-3, I'll feel happy, I think.

Posted: **Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:07 am**

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Value: 50.4%

Fuego thinks it's winning (barely) for the first time, after a pretty significant 0.7% jump. Maybe it thinks white's double approach is a mistake?

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Note Fuego hasn't given up on the idea of K7. I do think it's interesting how something about Monte-Carlo bots tends naturally towards a center-oriented style.

Posted: **Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:06 pm**

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Interesting move. I wanted to push through that gap, but I think then black plays in the corner and I have two groups that are difficult to handle.

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:22 am**

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Value: 50.4%
Time: 22:42

This has been black's hardest decision in the game so far. Mostly Fuego was split over which side to block on, but it also considered moves in a few other places:

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a: 62%
b: 30%
c: 2%
d: 2%

Sequence:

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Watching Fuego play makes me think my own opening has become too boring. A move like the knight's move cap at P6 or the tennuki shoulder hit Fuego predicts at J4 are moves I would never consider. But seeing them makes me think they're quite interesting and playable. I need to start looking for stranger moves when I play

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:36 am**

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I think P6 is going to be in a strange place after this, but maybe I'm wrong.

Posted: **Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:07 am**

hehe i was so wrong.. fuego did play R8.
This is interesting : human common sense knowledge backed up by MC simulations must be specially meaningful.
Here even random playouts seems to indicate that the 2 space extension is the right distance for a life base.

Posted: **Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:41 am**

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value: 50.4%

Fuego had no doubt at all about this move, 99.5% of playouts went here. Perhaps because it spent less time than usual, the followup sequence looks a bit unusual:

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Posted: **Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:20 am**

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Either way, I think black has two problems, that elephant eye and that loose stone. I'm trying to figure out the best shape, stand by...

Posted: **Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:46 pm**

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I *think* this offers better follow-ups. I know it's joseki in a similar position, but maybe black's (bad?) shape changes things.

Posted: **Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:24 pm**

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Time: 22:04
Value: 52.5%

A full 1% jump from last move. Not sure what the reason for the big increase is, but I noticed in Fuego's chosen sequence last time white didn't take gote to defend here. Maybe that's the difference?

Moves considered:

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a - 56%
b - 21%
c - 17%
d - 9%

Sequence:

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I'm not sure I actually like this play by black. White can't connect under, and this doesn't kill the corner group, so I'm not sure why black should take gote with :b23:

. It does match Fuego's thick style, though.

Posted: **Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:32 am**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm21 No Prisoners $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X 2 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I'm not sure if fuego is being really clever here or not.

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