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Re: AGA July 2011 minutes
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:37 pm
by daniel_the_smith
vash3g wrote:
i only noted like 3 things that are wrong, like names.
Care to elaborate?
Re: AGA July 2011 minutes
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:52 pm
by pwaldron
daniel_the_smith wrote:
Care to elaborate?
I picked up Don Bresler (rather than Jonathan), but I'm not going to nitpick.
As of September, the Board has laid out real priorities. Let me start by handing out some kudos. It's nice to see the start of something.
Item 2 on the priorities list (pro system) looks like it's still in the brainstorming stage, but what needs to happen to produce a rank certification system (item 1) or improving the AGA member experience (item 3)? Have any of these been broken down into sub-tasks yet? What needs to happen to drive these items to completion; where are the volunteers needed?
Re: AGA July 2011 minutes
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:56 pm
by daniel_the_smith
pwaldron wrote:Item 2 on the priorities list (pro system) looks like it's still in the brainstorming stage, but what needs to happen to produce a rank certification system (item 1) or improving the AGA member experience (item 3)? Have any of these been broken down into sub-tasks yet? What needs to happen to drive these items to completion; where are the volunteers needed?
I haven't heard anything about rank certification. Stuff is definitely happening on the pro system. Lisa, Allan, and myself discussed improving the membership experience and gave a list of recommendations to the board, one of which was acted upon last night (hi there, I'm "Board liaison to the E-Journal", and that position will be continue to be filled even in the event of my untimely demise-- you may now look for regular updates on the board's activity in the e-journal). These three things all had, or seemed to have, one or more strong proponents when we approved them. The remaining two items are, IMO, not so clear and it will be hard to quantify progress.
I'll be trying to get updates on these items on the agenda for upcoming meetings if they don't show up by themselves.
Re: AGA July 2011 minutes
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:09 pm
by vash3g
The name Greg Leffler should be Lefler.
It looks like chris kirschner will attempt to finish up the rank certification stuff again. Good thing they're still "working" on this since before the Portland congress.
I wonder if HKA will actually rejoin the governance committee. Also I wonder who the old codgers are still on the committee. I wonder how desperately they need new blood like the board has now.
Re: AGA July 2011 minutes
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:31 pm
by daniel_the_smith
vash3g wrote:It looks like chris kirschner will attempt to finish up the rank certification stuff again. Good thing they're still "working" on this since before the Portland congress.
Andy seemed quite adamant about actually accomplishing it.
vash3g wrote:I wonder if HKA will actually rejoin the governance committee. Also I wonder who the old codgers are still on the committee. I wonder how desperately they need new blood like the board has now.
We were told last night that he has agreed to do so.
I get that you have reason to be cynical, and the outside view suggests that it's probably warranted... and yeah, I understand that you've probably got a really long list of legitimate shortcomings stacked up... but... I'm getting the impression that as the board improves things you'll focus on the areas it's still screwing up. That you've left team "fix the AGA" and joined team "watch it burn". And, of course, it's up to you what team you want to be on, and you've done lots for team "fix the AGA". But... that doesn't make it fun to read your comments. Please tell me I'm misreading you.
Re: AGA July 2011 minutes
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:21 pm
by jts
I am still very curious to know what sort of mix up led to the aga forgetting to send a u.s. Rep to Korea. Are these minutes a sign that we will never be told the real story?
Re: AGA July 2011 minutes
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:25 am
by pwaldron
jts wrote:I am still very curious to know what sort of mix up led to the aga forgetting to send a u.s. Rep to Korea. Are these minutes a sign that we will never be told the real story?
I'm still dying to know as well. It's a curious problem to have given how short the chain of responsibility for this item was. When I was tournament coordinator the procedure was that Korea would send an email to the president with an official invitation and forms, the president would pass it along to me and then I would forward it to the representative, who would then complete the form and send it back to Korea.
Compared to some other tournaments the KPMC is easy to keep straight--it's the top placing eligible player in the previous US Open. There just aren't (or at least weren't) that many steps for things to go wrong.
If anyone is a betting person, the next dispute may focus on the WAGC. Francis Meyer was clearly the top placing US citizen in the 2010 US Open but wasn't awarded any WAGC points. It will disrupt all the point distributions for the next five years and may actually affect the selection of a representative.
Re: AGA July 2011 minutes
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:59 pm
by gowan
jts wrote:I am still very curious to know what sort of mix up led to the aga forgetting to send a u.s. Rep to Korea. Are these minutes a sign that we will never be told the real story?
Is it possible that someone was chosen as USA rep. but backed out at the last minute and a replacement rep couldn't be found?
Re: AGA July 2011 minutes
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:15 pm
by Javaness2
jts wrote:I am still very curious to know what sort of mix up led to the aga forgetting to send a u.s. Rep to Korea. Are these minutes a sign that we will never be told the real story?
Maybe the email went into a spam folder?
Surely though, it's possible to work out who the representative should have been. Wouldn't there be a points table somewhere.... heh! i just found some
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1: Chen, Zhaonian 8d 15+/w0 5-/b0 4+/b0 13+/w0 8+/w0 2+/b0 5-1-0
[color=#BF0040]2: Ge, Yongfei 8d 9+/b0 13+/b0 5+/w0 3+/w0 6+/w0 1-/w0 5-1-0[/color]
3: Yin, Mingming 8d 16+/w0 10+/b0 6+/b0 2-/b0 5-/w0 7+/w0 4-2-0
4: Tang, Curtis 8d 12+/b0 8-/w0 1-/w0 38+/b0 14+/w0 6+/b0 4-2-0
5: Hu, Zi Yang 7d 37+/b0 1+/w0 2-/b0 16+/b0 3+/b0 9+/w0 5-1-0
6: Ko, Dae Hyuk 8d 8+/w0 11+/b0 3-/w0 7+/b0 2-/b0 4-/w0 3-3-0
7: Koh, Juyong 8d 23+/b0 14+/w0 13-/w0 6-/w0 25+/b0 3-/b0 3-3-0
8: Lin, Tianyu (Bill) 7d 6-/b0 4+/b0 15+/w0 18+/w0 1-/b0 16+/w0 4-2-0
9: Zhang, Mengchen 7d 2-/w0 22+/b0 17+/w0 10+/b0 15+/w0 5-/b0 4-2-0
[color=#BF0040]10: Shi, Gansheng 7d 40+/b0 3-/w0 14+/b0 9-/w0 13+/b0 25+/w0 4-2-0[/color]
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Rules:
hold US citizenship
have been physically resident in the United States for six of the past twelve months
have held continuous AGA membership for the past year
have completed ten AGA-rated games within the past year
comply with relevant drug screening policies
not be selected for the WAGC tournaments immediate preceeding or following selection as the KPMC representative.
Re: AGA July 2011 minutes
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:57 pm
by hyperpape
gowan wrote:jts wrote:I am still very curious to know what sort of mix up led to the aga forgetting to send a u.s. Rep to Korea. Are these minutes a sign that we will never be told the real story?
Is it possible that someone was chosen as USA rep. but backed out at the last minute and a replacement rep couldn't be found?
It was stated the the fault was the AGA, not the rep.