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Re: Numsgil (3k) vs perceval (7k) - Donut Board
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:48 am
by perceval
$$Bcm9
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Re: Numsgil (3k) vs perceval (7k) - Donut Board
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:03 am
by Celebrir
$$Wcm10
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm10Is this good for W ? The main problem I have with this joseki is that it seems like black never will have to take the stone with 'a'. Therefore I tried to equalize with a tennuki. I'm not sure where the biggest move is but
looks okay ? Or is 'a' more important ?
Re: Numsgil (3k) vs perceval (7k) - Donut Board
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:29 am
by Numsgil
$$Wcm10
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Re: Numsgil (3k) vs perceval (7k) - Donut Board
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:35 am
by hyperpape
$$Wcm10
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm10I think being low on this board is fine.
Re: Numsgil (3k) vs perceval (7k) - Donut Board
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:06 am
by Tryss
hyperpape wrote: I think being low on this board is fine.
Nearly all intersection are on the 3rd line or lower : you can't be high
Re: Numsgil (3k) vs perceval (7k) - Donut Board
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:54 pm
by perceval
$$Bcm11
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i hope i ll get the exterior:
$$Bcm11
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$$Bcm11
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm11he can still get the exterior and leave me with the corner
Re: Numsgil (3k) vs perceval (7k) - Donut Board
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:43 pm
by Numsgil
$$Wcm12
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I combined the komi and the captures in the caption.
$$Wcm12 W+7.5
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm12 W+7.5Not for you:
I get sente anyway. It's not bad for white at all; I'm 90% sure this line is considered joseki. It just feels too straightforward, I guess. I get stuffed in to the corner (though it's a pretty big corner, if I want it to be). I just don't like 5-3 stones. Can't I have the corner territory
and outside influence?
Re: Numsgil (3k) vs perceval (7k) - Donut Board
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:48 pm
by Shaddy
Re: Numsgil (3k) vs perceval (7k) - Donut Board
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:55 am
by perceval
i ll take the trigger
$$Bcm15 W+7.5 (komi +prisoners)
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Re: Numsgil (3k) vs perceval (7k) - Donut Board
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:41 am
by Numsgil
$$Wcm16 W+7.5 (komi +prisoners)
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Guess I'll just take corner profit :/
This is on the verge of being an overplay, but I think it works because of black's shortage of liberties (without the Q19 stone this wouldn't work).
For example, black looks in good shape until he realizes he still needs to defend at 6.
$$Wcm1 W+7.5 (komi +prisoners)
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Re: Numsgil (3k) vs perceval (7k) - Donut Board
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:58 am
by perceval
$$Bcm17 W+7.5 (komi +prisoners)
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goal is to shut him in, standard when you surround a corner.
i was a little worried about the crosscut
$$Bcm17 W+7.5 (komi +prisoners)
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm17 W+7.5 (komi +prisoners) but thise sounds good enough : W is still capture and the cutting stone is unhappy ?
$$Bcm17 W+7.5 (komi +prisoners)
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Re: Numsgil (3k) vs perceval (7k) - Donut Board
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:23 am
by Numsgil
$$Wcm18 W+7.5 (komi +prisoners)
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Re: Numsgil (3k) vs perceval (7k) - Donut Board
Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:13 am
by perceval
$$Bcm19 W+7.5 (komi +prisoners)
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i considered:
$$Bcm19 W+7.5 (komi +prisoners)
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm19 W+7.5 (komi +prisoners)-g can be left for later i feel
The obvious move i want to play is T19 but i have trouble making it work because of the aji of
$$Bcm19 W+7.5 (komi +prisoners)
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm19 W+7.5 (komi +prisoners)if i play away i am annoyed by the cut
$$Bcm19 W+7.5 (komi +prisoners)
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm19 W+7.5 (komi +prisoners) i can play twice at the bottom but its inconsistent with blocking in the first plqce ?
local move to defend the cut lose sente.
i almost play U16 to seal
now the cut is okish i think :
$$Bcm19 W+7.5 (komi +prisoners)
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm19 W+7.5 (komi +prisoners)then:
$$Wcm28 W+7.5 (komi +prisoners)
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm28 W+7.5 (komi +prisoners)the problem is that on this board i feel like sealing W is not that big : W can approach from the top right and i won't get much here.
with the move played i already start to claim a bit of territory on the right, easy to extend around S11. the bottom i still open so i feel i can let him add a move and still do something
all in all i now realize that the laddered stone as a lot of local aji even if ladder breaker are not a factor
Re: Numsgil (3k) vs perceval (7k) - Donut Board
Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:42 pm
by Numsgil
$$Wcm20 W+7.5 (komi +prisoners)
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This joseki is unusually good for white, I think.
$$Wcm20 W+7.5 (komi +prisoners)
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm20 W+7.5 (komi +prisoners)This one isn't necessarily better or worse. Still looks like joseki to me.
$$Wcm20 W+7.5 (komi +prisoners)
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm20 W+7.5 (komi +prisoners)This looks okay to me, too. I Have a pretty solid followup at 'a, too.
$$Wcm20 W+7.5 (komi +prisoners)
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Re: Numsgil (3k) vs perceval (7k) - Donut Board
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:56 am
by perceval
sorry been busy
$$Bcm21 W+7.5 (komi +prisoners)
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not for you
looks okay ? Or is 'a' more important ?
