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Redstone - Topazg vs. Dusk Eagle

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Re: Redstone - Topazg vs. Dusk Eagle

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:06 am
by topazg
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . X 0 . |
$$ | . . O , . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 9 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]


Let's defend it then :)

Re: Redstone - Topazg vs. Dusk Eagle

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:50 am
by Dusk Eagle
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[go]$$Bcm11 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O , . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]


I guess that's allowed.

Re: Redstone - Topazg vs. Dusk Eagle

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:20 pm
by topazg
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[go]$$Bcm11 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O , . . . , . 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]


Now I have a useful sente in the top left, as well as pokey fun at the bottom I'm still quietly hopeful for:

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[go]$$Bcm11 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 6 . 1 . |
$$ | . . . 4 . X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O , . . . , . 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]

Re: Redstone - Topazg vs. Dusk Eagle

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:00 pm
by Dusk Eagle
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[go]$$Bcm13 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . 1 . . X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O , . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]

I'm pretty thin on top, but it's really awkward to defend directly, and in addition he would get to play at :w2: below, which would expand his territory and make my group come under pressure.

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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 1 . X . |
$$ | . . . 2 . X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O , . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]

Re: Redstone - Topazg vs. Dusk Eagle

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:02 pm
by topazg
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[go]$$Bcm13 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . 1 2 . X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O , . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]


Contact?? Hane!!

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[go]$$Bcm13 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 4 . . 0 . . . X . |
$$ | . 5 1 2 8 X . . X O . |
$$ | . 9 O 3 6 . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . 7 . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]

Re: Redstone - Topazg vs. Dusk Eagle

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:24 pm
by Dusk Eagle
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm13 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O 3 . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]

Hane?? Crosscut!!

Re: Redstone - Topazg vs. Dusk Eagle

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:47 pm
by topazg
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[go]$$Bcm13 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 4 . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O 3 . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]


Crosscut?? Atari!! ... no, wait :-?

Re: Redstone - Topazg vs. Dusk Eagle

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:18 pm
by Dusk Eagle
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[go]$$Bcm13 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . 5 X O . X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]

Re: Redstone - Topazg vs. Dusk Eagle

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:31 pm
by topazg
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm13 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . 5 X O . X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X 6 . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]


I've started, so I'll finish.

Re: Redstone - Topazg vs. Dusk Eagle

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:40 pm
by MarkSteere
How do we get this onto a Go server?

Re: Redstone - Topazg vs. Dusk Eagle

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:00 pm
by hyperpape
MarkSteere wrote:How do we get this onto a Go server?
Kaya.gs is your best bet. They seem to be willing to try all sorts of things, and are aiming to have fairly open development. It's possible that someone who was interested could implement it. But it still might be a slim chance.

Re: Redstone - Topazg vs. Dusk Eagle

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:59 pm
by MarkSteere
I've sent them an email. Thanks for the tip.

Re: Redstone - Topazg vs. Dusk Eagle

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:17 pm
by Dusk Eagle
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[go]$$Bcm19 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . X X O 1 X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]

I don't have much time to comment, but here's a diagram of my thoughts:

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[go]$$Wcm1 :w1: at the blank point
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . 6 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 4 O 2 5 . . . . X . |
$$ | . X X O X X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O 3 O . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . + . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm7 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . + . 8 a 6 7 . . . |
$$ | . X . X O 1 2 5 . X . |
$$ | . X X O X X 3 . X O . |
$$ | . . O O O 4 . , . O . |
$$ | . . . + . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]

Simultaneous capture if white plays 'a'.

Re: Redstone - Topazg vs. Dusk Eagle

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:59 am
by topazg
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm19 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O 2 . . . . . X . |
$$ | . X X O 1 X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]


Looks like a trade's on the table:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm19 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O 2 . . . . . X . |
$$ | . X X O 1 X . . X O . |
$$ | . 4 O X O . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . 3 . 5 . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . 6 X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]

Re: Redstone - Topazg vs. Dusk Eagle

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:26 am
by Dusk Eagle
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm21 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ -------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . X . |
$$ | . X X O X X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . 1 . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------------[/go]
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