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Re: BC card cup starts

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:42 am
by tapir
I believe most of the performance difference is easily explained by the fact that Chinese players played a local preliminary first, while Koreans participated in what looks like full numbers and Japanese players are mainly youngsters (many <20 years and recently turned professional) eager to go to every possible tournament within reach.

P.S. And yes, 16-25 and two qualified players is quite respectable (not a success, but respectable) for this circumstances.

Re: BC card cup starts

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:33 am
by Lucian
ez4u wrote:A little quick fiddling (i.e. may contain mistakes) in excel gives the following:

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Country    Players(P)   Wins(W)    W/P   Qualifiers(Q)   Q/P
Korea          224       172      0.77           29     0.13
China           57        76      1.33           20     0.35
Japan           27        16      0.59            2     0.07
Taiwan          12         4      0.33            1     0.08
Total          320       268      0.84           52     0.16

Note that the number of Wins, and therefore losses, (268) plus the number of surviving qualifiers (52) equals the number of players (320), so the figures may even be correct! :blackeye: Overall the number of games per player is small, but it is hard to ignore the difference shown between China and 'the rest' IMHO.


The numbers are misleading because the Chinese delegation consists of the country's better players while from Korea everybody played...

A new international Chinese-sponsored tournament will start this month and it has a format similar to BC Card: http://igokisen.web.fc2.com/wr/bl.html
Korea will send also around 60 players so after this preliminaries we can better compare the performances of the two countries under the same conditions.

Re: BC card cup starts

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:37 am
by trout
Pairing for round of 64

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Re: BC card cup starts

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:12 am
by trout
Choi Chulhan, Park Junghwan and Iyama Yuuta failed to reach the next round.

Exciting game was between Moon Byungkwon(a) vs Kong Jie(won by 0.5).

Ida Atsushi and Murakawa Daisuke advanced to next round.

Re: BC card cup starts

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:35 pm
by trout
Round of 32 will be played 3/15/2012.

http://igokisen.web.fc2.com/wr/bc.html

Re: BC card cup starts

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:39 am
by trout
Round of 32 starts.
3/16/12 - 3/20/12
Pairing;

Kim Jiseok vs Piao Wenyao
Na Hyun vs Jiang Weijie
Heo Youngho vs Chen Yaoe
Lee Wonyoung vs Meng Tailing
Lee Sedol vs Dang Yifei
Lee Wondo vs Tan Xiao
Lee Changho vs Mi Yuting
Kim Kiyong vs Hu Yaoyu
Kim Seungjun vs Xie He
Park Jinsol vs Zhou Ruiyang
On Sojin vs Niu Yutian
Park Younghun vs Hong Seongji
Won Seongjin vs Baek Hongseok
Gu Li vs Fan Tingyu
Liu Xing vs Murakawa Daisuke
Kong Jie vs Ida Atsushi

There will be few games played each day.

Re: BC card cup starts

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:47 am
by trout
Park Younghun defeated Hong Seongji.
Baek Hongseok defeated Won Seongjin.

Re: BC card cup starts

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:48 pm
by trout
Lee Wonyoung defated Meng Tailing.
Mi Yuting defeated Lee Changho.
Zhou Ruiyang defeated Park Jinsol.

Dang Yifei defeated Lee Sedol.
Gu Li defeated Fan Tingyu.

Re: BC card cup starts

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:34 pm
by trout
Piao Wenyao defeated Kim Jiseok.
Liu Xing defeated Murakawa Daisuke.
Kong Jie defeated Ida Atsushi.

Chen Yaoe defeated Heo Youngho.
Niu Yutian defeated On Sojin.

Re: BC card cup starts

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:30 am
by trout
Jiang Weijie defeated Na Hyun.
Tan Xiao defeated Lee Wondo.

Re: BC card cup starts

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:39 am
by RedStick
Hey Trout. I just wanted to say thanks for keeping this up to date.

Re: BC card cup starts

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:20 am
by Magicwand
only survivor is Park Younghun who played another koreans..
that is not good...

Re: BC card cup starts

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:40 am
by Hsiang
It's amazing how well China is doing. So far 11 Chinese and 3 Koreans advanced to the round of 16. Two more games are yet to be played, Xie He vs. Kim Seongjun, Hu Yaoyu vs. Kim Kiyong. The nearly total collapse of the top Korean players is unprecedented. Among the Korean top 10, only Park Younghun will play into the next round:

1 Lee Sedol, lost in round of 32.
2 Park Junghwan, lost in round of 64.
3 Choi Cheolhan, lost in round of 64.
4 Kang Dongyun, lost in preliminary.
5 Wong Seongjin, lost in round of 32.
6 Kim Jiseok, lost in round of 32.
7 Cho Hanseung, lost in round of 64.
8 Park Younghun, won against Hong Seongji, advances to round of 16.
9 Lee Younggu, lost in preliminary.
10 Lee Changho, lost in round of 32.
10 Heo Youngho, lost in round of 32.

And for the game between the most promising future stars, Na Hyun lost a close game to Jiang Weijie. Definitely the worst weekend we have ever seen from the Korean players. Let's hope they will pick it up in the Bailing Cup.

Re: BC card cup starts

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:02 pm
by Uberdude
Looks like http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.j.s ... Table.html will keep on getting redder.

I'm rooting for Xie He: I like his play and it's about time he got his first international title.

Re: BC card cup starts

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:07 am
by trout
Xie He defeated Kim Seungjun.
Hu Yaoyu defeated Kim Kiyong.