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Posted: **Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:17 pm**

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[Richard Simmons voice] And one! And two! And three! And kick! [/Richard Simmons voice]
It's been a long day. Fielding angry calls and e-mails on the same day as I decide to greatly reduce my caffeine intake. I feel like Lloyd Bridges in Airplane.

Posted: **Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:53 pm**

I'm a bit late on this comment, but I don't see any reason for Black not to play the normal joseki here.

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I think as white I would have gone for the cut right away:

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Posted: **Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:11 am**

Just a quick fyi, I'm going to be out of town until Sunday night. So have a good weekend and I'll see you then.

Posted: **Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:23 pm**

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emeraldemon wrote:
I'm a bit late on this comment, but I don't see any reason for Black not to play the normal joseki here.
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I think as white I would have gone for the cut right away:

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Absolutely. but, even though I'm going for the cut, he's already making big moyo on the right side. So, I think I have to focus for destroying that moyo at first.

Posted: **Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:32 pm**

Sorry, I should have been more explicit: the stuff in hide tags isn't for players to read!

Posted: **Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:48 pm**

emeraldemon wrote:Sorry, I should have been more explicit: the stuff in hide tags isn't for players to read!

Owh. sorry, I think it's comment can help the players. btw, is it the rules here? how about the spoiler? I can't read my opponent's spoiler too?

Posted: **Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:15 pm**

I probably should have written "Not for the players" in my post so you knew, but the general rule is that you can't read anything in spoiler tags unless someone writes "For bakekoq:" or something similar on it. You shouldn't read what's in your opponent's spoiler tags.

Posted: **Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:15 pm**

it's really strange. I think, this malkovich game is opened so we can know what's our opponent trying for the next moves? so, what's the purpose for the spoiler if so?

Posted: **Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:29 am**

If it was open, there would be no need in hide tags, right?
The purpose is that you play the game as usual, but explain your reasoning, get comments on it, and after the game you reread the topic, and the hide tags become an excellent review on the game

That's how I see it.

Posted: **Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:10 am**

owh, I see now the process for this malkovich game.
ok,I'll be careful for the future.
I got some feeling for opening anything that's closing. hehe.. we'll open it after we play till the end, right??

Posted: **Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:59 am**

bakekoq wrote:I can't read my opponent's spoiler too?

I had always taken this to be a given. To me, the info in the spoiler tags are for game observers while the game is going on, for opponents after the game is over, and for the writer down the road as a retrospective. Plus, in a game against a much stronger opponent (such as mine against EdLee), I imagine the spoilers can function as a teaching tool. At least, I hope I'll be able to learn from his commentary on my good and bad moves in my game with him (though I do intend to ask him for specific feedback once our game's over).

Anyhoo

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Posted: **Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:41 pm**

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Posted: **Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:36 pm**

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Posted: **Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:56 pm**

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Posted: **Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:45 pm**

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