Why don't more people use Tygem?

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Re: Why don't more people use Tygem?

Post by aconley »

Same here -- no Mac client, and trying to get it to work via Wine
has been an utter failure.
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Re: Why don't more people use Tygem?

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I got a Mac client (basicly a wine wrapper in a dmg) from a friend of a friend. I've long since lost the link, and no longer remember which friend (because it was from a random Facebook post). I might still have the dmg somewhere -- if they haven't updated the client, it might still work.

Tygem sucks.
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Re: Why don't more people use Tygem?

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I know there are people out there who have gotten it to work using Wine -- it just never has for me. It only successfully launches about 50% of the time, and the other 50% of the time everything works -- except the mouse (or trackpad). I can see what games are being played, but not view any of them or play myself. So, thanks, but it seems unlikely that would fix the problem, since I've already essentially been down that route.
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Re: Why don't more people use Tygem?

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No Android client is my main reason.
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Re: Why don't more people use Tygem?

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oren wrote:No Android client is my main reason.


My only reason.
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Re: Why don't more people use Tygem?

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I started to play a few games on Tygem, since there was no way to get my iPad to work with my favorite server (KGS)

There are a few things I did not like:

- One of my first games, I got a message that the opponent resigned but in the record the game was lost for me ( I think that was a bug at that time).
- Most of the time I tried automatch, I get a message that there are no players of my (low) rank available. Rather than pairing automatches with a proper handicap, like KGS, Tygem seems to only pairs players of the same rank
- Somehow I always have to look through a number of servers... I would rather prefer to have "one" server.
- The style of the games that I have played was quite different from the ones on KGS: It seemed like my opponents did not really follow a strategy, but managed to make everything on the board a giant L&D problem (which I lost, of course). I do not mind loosing, but I enjoy the style played at KGS more (At least I can delude myself that there is something like strategy going on...).


I think in the end what is the main reason for me to not use Tygem is the unsatisfactory automatch function. If I log on to the server, I want to get a game quickly without browsing several servers, without endless invitations and so on. This always works on KGS better than on any other server I have tried.
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Re: Why don't more people use Tygem?

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hibbs wrote:I think in the end what is the main reason for me to not use Tygem is the unsatisfactory automatch function. If I log on to the server, I want to get a game quickly without browsing several servers, without endless invitations and so on. This always works on KGS better than on any other server I have tried.

This is weird. When I log in to Tygem, someone else always offers me a match within five seconds (usually by automatch), while it takes more than five minutes to find a opponent in KGS. There are 23000 ~ 28000 simultaneous users when I play in Tygem, but I never saw KGS people more than a thousand.

I have been playing much in KGS during last few weeks, but I'm now back again to Tygem and Netmarble for a fast match.
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Re: Why don't more people use Tygem?

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lovelove wrote:This is weird. When I log in to Tygem, someone else always offers me a match within five seconds (usually by automatch), while it takes more than five minutes to find a opponent in KGS. There are 23000 ~ 28000 simultaneous users when I play in Tygem, but I never saw KGS people more than a thousand.

I have been playing much in KGS during last few weeks, but I'm now back again to Tygem and Netmarble for a fast match.


It may depend on the rank. There are really not a lot weak players on Tygem. At KGS the distribution may be more shifted to weaker ranks and on Tygem towards higher ranks.
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Re: Why don't more people use Tygem?

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hibbs wrote:
lovelove wrote:This is weird. When I log in to Tygem, someone else always offers me a match within five seconds (usually by automatch), while it takes more than five minutes to find a opponent in KGS. There are 23000 ~ 28000 simultaneous users when I play in Tygem, but I never saw KGS people more than a thousand.

I have been playing much in KGS during last few weeks, but I'm now back again to Tygem and Netmarble for a fast match.


It may depend on the rank. There are really not a lot weak players on Tygem. At KGS the distribution may be more shifted to weaker ranks and on Tygem towards higher ranks.

What rank do you have on tygem?
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Re: Why don't more people use Tygem?

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p2501 wrote:What rank do you have on tygem?


Interesting: I just went to the iPad to check my rank and I got a game request within seconds... Probably I should reconsider Tygem. My rank is 16k, but I think you could not call it stable yet.
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Re: Why don't more people use Tygem?

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hibbs wrote:
p2501 wrote:What rank do you have on tygem?


Interesting: I just went to the iPad to check my rank and I got a game request within seconds... Probably I should reconsider Tygem. My rank is 16k, but I think you could not call it stable yet.

Tygem server itself is very stable, more than ten years old, and the biggest go server in Korea. It seems the English client has some problems, but I think it will be better soon with some updates.
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Re: Why don't more people use Tygem?

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lovelove wrote:Tygem server itself is very stable, more than ten years old, and the biggest go server in Korea. It seems the English client has some problems, but I think it will be better soon with some updates.


I meant my rank is not yet stable (I had only a few games). I do not doubt that the server is stable...
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Re: Why don't more people use Tygem?

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hibbs wrote:
lovelove wrote:Tygem server itself is very stable, more than ten years old, and the biggest go server in Korea. It seems the English client has some problems, but I think it will be better soon with some updates.


I meant my rank is not yet stable (I had only a few games). I do not doubt that the server is stable...

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Re: Why don't more people use Tygem?

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lovelove wrote:
hibbs wrote:I think in the end what is the main reason for me to not use Tygem is the unsatisfactory automatch function. If I log on to the server, I want to get a game quickly without browsing several servers, without endless invitations and so on. This always works on KGS better than on any other server I have tried.

This is weird. When I log in to Tygem, someone else always offers me a match within five seconds (usually by automatch), while it takes more than five minutes to find a opponent in KGS. There are 23000 ~ 28000 simultaneous users when I play in Tygem, but I never saw KGS people more than a thousand.

I have been playing much in KGS during last few weeks, but I'm now back again to Tygem and Netmarble for a fast match.


Hi, I think I figured it out: After yous suggestion, I logged in and got an immediate game. However: This was in the European afternoon, so evening in Korea. When I tred to get a match at 9:00 pm central Europe time, the server was not all that busy, only three players with my rank. SO I think there is not a large enough European userbase to get a game at convenient times...
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Re: Why don't more people use Tygem?

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Tygem generally feels very unsociable to me. It seems like the sort of place you go if you want to play go and do nothing else - there seems to be no culture of reviewing at the end or chat or teaching. And the chat is sadly full of racist nonsense. At the weakest ranks it's full of sandbaggers, though at stronger ranks it seems much better. I do play on there (I'm 16k on there, but given the number of sandbaggers I normally get a decent thrashing from a 17-18k), but only when I can't get a game on KGS (which is rare).
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