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Re: Judicata(b) vs. Jordus(w) Boardz game continuation

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:52 am
by Jordus
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[go]$$Bcm
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O O X . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O X X . . X . O . O W O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . X . X O X X . . |
$$ | . O O . X X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | O X X X . . . X . . X . X X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . O . . . . . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . . O . . X . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . X . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . O . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . , . . X X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Its only obvious to protect my stones...

Re: Judicata(b) vs. Jordus(w) Boardz game continuation

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:05 am
by judicata
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O O X . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O X X . . X . O . O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . X . X O X X . . |
$$ | . O O . X X . . . . . . . . X B . . . |
$$ | O X X X . . . X . . X . X X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . O . . . . . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . . O . . X . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . X . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . O . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . , . . X X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I should read this more. But the truth is, I cannot give up the upper right group, so if my losses are too great here, I'm resigning.

Re: Judicata(b) vs. Jordus(w) Boardz game continuation

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:18 am
by Jordus
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O O X . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O X X . . X . O . O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , W X . X O X X . . |
$$ | . O O . X X . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | O X X X . . . X . . X . X X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . O . . . . . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . . O . . X . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . X . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . O . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . , . . X X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Judicata(b) vs. Jordus(w) Boardz game continuation

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:42 am
by judicata
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O O X . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O X X . . X . O . O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , O X . X O X X . . |
$$ | . O O . X X . . . . . B . . X X . . . |
$$ | O X X X . . . X . . X . X X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . O . . . . . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . . O . . X . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . X . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . O . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . , . . X X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Judicata(b) vs. Jordus(w) Boardz game continuation

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:55 am
by Jordus
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[go]$$Bcm
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O O X . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O X X . . X W O . O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , O X . X O X X . . |
$$ | . O O . X X . . . . . X . . X X . . . |
$$ | O X X X . . . X . . X . X X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . O . . . . . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . . O . . X . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . X . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . O . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . , . . X X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Connect then push into Blacks moyo....

Re: Judicata(b) vs. Jordus(w) Boardz game continuation

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:45 pm
by judicata
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[go]$$Bcm
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O O X . . B . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O X X . . X O O . O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , O X . X O X X . . |
$$ | . O O . X X . . . . . X . . X X . . . |
$$ | O X X X . . . X . . X . X X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . O . . . . . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . . O . . X . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . X . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . O . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . , . . X X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Judicata(b) vs. Jordus(w) Boardz game continuation

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:42 pm
by Jordus
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[go]$$Bcm
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O O X . . X . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O X X . . X O O . O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , O X . X O X X . . |
$$ | . O O . X X . . . W . X . . X X . . . |
$$ | O X X X . . . X . . X . X X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . O . . . . . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . . O . . X . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . X . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . O . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . , . . X X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Here we go...

Re: Judicata(b) vs. Jordus(w) Boardz game continuation

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:53 pm
by Chew Terr
judicata wrote:Sorry I've been slow. I have guests in town and I just had jury duty, which indirectly increased my workload.


Ah, ouch. I had quite the opposite experience. When I was called for jury duty, I borrowed and read In the Beginning, nearly all the way through, then was sent back to work a few hours latter. Bad luck on your side~

Re: Judicata(b) vs. Jordus(w) Boardz game continuation

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:17 am
by k43r
I wonder why do they ignore right side of the board o_0
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[go]$$Bcm
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O O X . . X . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O X X . . X O O . O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , O X . X O X X 5 . |
$$ | . O O . X X . . . W . X . . X X . 4 . |
$$ | O X X X . . . X . . X . X X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . O . . . . . . . O X X 2 8 . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . O . O . 3 O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . 6 . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . . O . . X . X , X 7 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . X . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . O . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . , . . X X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This 8 is strongest defense.
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[go]$$Bcm
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O O X . . X . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O X X . . X O O . O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , O X . X O X X X . |
$$ | . O O . X X . . . W . X . . X X . O 4 |
$$ | O X X X . . . X . . X . X X O O O . 3 |
$$ | . O O X . O . . . . . . . O X X O O 5 |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . O . O . X O . 1 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O 2 |
$$ | . . O O . . O . . O . . X . X , X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . X . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . O . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . , . . X X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

R11 and R15 are miai to kill

Re: Judicata(b) vs. Jordus(w) Boardz game continuation

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:43 am
by judicata
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[go]$$Bcm
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O O X . . X . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O X X . . X O O . O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , O X B X O X X . . |
$$ | . O O . X X . . . O . X . . X X . . . |
$$ | O X X X . . . X . . X . X X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . O . . . . . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . . O . . X . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . X . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . O . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . , . . X X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I want to make sure this group lives even if it is separated, so I'll take the eye while I can get it. I think the left group is okay for now, though now black doesn't have much territory there.

Re: Judicata(b) vs. Jordus(w) Boardz game continuation

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:18 am
by Jordus
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O O X . . X . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O X X . . X O O . O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , O X X X O X X . . |
$$ | . O O . X X . . W O . X . . X X . . . |
$$ | O X X X . . . X . . X . X X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . O . . . . . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . . O . . X . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . X . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . O . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . , . . X X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Continuing to destroy the moyo...

Re: Judicata(b) vs. Jordus(w) Boardz game continuation

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:21 pm
by judicata
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O O X . . X . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O X X . . X O O . O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , O X X X O X X . . |
$$ | . O O . X X . . O O . X . . X X . . . |
$$ | O X X X . . . X . . X . X X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . O . . . . . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . . O . . X . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . X . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . O . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . , . . X X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I just figured I'd get this in. I don't think there is life/death issue that I'm missing that I can't take care of after this.

Re: Judicata(b) vs. Jordus(w) Boardz game continuation

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:27 pm
by Jordus
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O O X . . X . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O X X . . X O O W O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , O X X X O X X . . |
$$ | . O O . X X . . O O . X . . X X . . . |
$$ | O X X X . . . X . . X . X X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . O . . . . . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . . O . . X . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . X . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . O . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . , . . X X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Connect then continue dstroying blacks moyo...

Re: Judicata(b) vs. Jordus(w) Boardz game continuation

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:22 pm
by Harleqin
What moyo??

It seems that one player is playing against his own imagination, while both are unable to see the serious matters of life and death going on.

I wonder when one of them will finally see that Q13 is not dead. Of course, first we will have to see whether both their top side groups survive.

Re: Judicata(b) vs. Jordus(w) Boardz game continuation

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:17 pm
by judicata
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . B . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O O X . . X . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O X X . . X O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , O X X X O X X . . |
$$ | . O O . X X . . O O . X . . X X . . . |
$$ | O X X X . . . X . . X . X X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . O . . . . . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . . O . . X . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . X . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . O . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . , . . X X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I sort of expected an attachment here, but I may have misread something. Maybe white can kill black's group? I think I see two eyes no matter what, so I'm just going to role with it. I have to admit, I always feel moves like this are a little bit "low" (in the moral sense, although it is literally true as well). Then again, it is entirely possible I'm misreading this.