Hajin Lee's formula for improving at go
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Re: Hajin Lee's formula for improving at go
Marcus wrote:I also set my talent to 10 as I believe I am rather average.
Quick note: An average of 10 was meant over the entire world population. I think most active go players will score higher than that, as they already have an interest in mind sports to begin with
Also, I think that any starting age over 30 can pretty much be considered as 30 for purpose of the formula, the A/2 was mostly meant to reflect the advantage of starting as a kid or (to some extent) a student.
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Re: Hajin Lee's formula for improving at go
Araban wrote:Had to do this, even if her formula makes no sense to me:
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Could someone provide a tutorial on how to use this formula?apetresc wrote:Araban wrote:Had to do this, even if her formula makes no sense to me:
Small tip: use "operatorname{Age}" instead, so that it doesn't look like it's just three variables multiplied together. It's how things like sin, cos, and log are implemented.
What does Qs, Ts and other stuff mean? (link is in the first post is broken)
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"Warning: this is for fun. It's not scientific or academic".Krama wrote: Could someone provide a tutorial on how to use this formula?
What does Qs, Ts and other stuff mean? (link is in the first post is broken)
Vg = (Qs*(Ts+Qp))**(Tg/(Age+L))
Vg = Speed in improving your baduk skills. (units not given
Qs = Quality of sources (teachers, books, playing partners). 1 to 5 scale where 5 is extremely good.
Ts = Time of study. Average time you are investing a day. 1 point for five minutes.
Qp = Quality of playing. Average number of games you play a day. 5 points per game.
Tg = Natural talent in Go. 1 to 5 scale where 5 is as talented as professionals.
Age = A player's current age.
L = A player's current level of Go. 1 to 30 scale where 7d is 30.
Source: Outside the Board: Diary of a Professional Go Player, by Hajin Lee, Andrew Jackson, 2016.
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Re: Hajin Lee's formula for improving at go
Formula is weird. I get around 1.1-1.3 with changing the values (not the age and rank).
So this means no matter how much I am good and how much I study per day I will improve at about a stone per year?
However I tried it for some young Chinese 10 year old kid and I got up to 2.75 stones per year, meaning around the age of 15 they would turn pro which does make sense.
So this means no matter how much I am good and how much I study per day I will improve at about a stone per year?
However I tried it for some young Chinese 10 year old kid and I got up to 2.75 stones per year, meaning around the age of 15 they would turn pro which does make sense.




