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Re: Device for reading Go World Magazine in Digital Form

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:37 am
by tchan001
SanDisk Ultra 64GB microSDXC Card with Adapter Class 10

Re: Device for reading Go World Magazine in Digital Form

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:07 pm
by tchan001
I need to correct myself. My device is not the TAB 2, it's the Samsung NOTE 10.1
The specs for the TAB 2 10.1 (GT-P5100 in HK) only accepts external memory cards up to 32GB
The specs for the NOTE 10.1 (GT-N8000 in HK) accepts external memory cards up to 64GB
Hope this clarifies the situation with my device.

Re: Device for reading Go World Magazine in Digital Form

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:38 am
by Antipodean
For resizable formats (mobi, prc, html, etc) any size device is good enough, but for PDFs I find a 7" tablet barely big enough and then only for certain types of documents.

I'd say 10" is a minimum for PDF files. YMMV.

Re: Device for reading Go World Magazine in Digital Form

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:55 am
by tchan001
Marcel GrĂ¼nauer wrote:
tchan001 wrote:In fact, I could probably fit all the digitized Go World Magazines, all the digitized Go Review magazines, all the digitized Weiqi Tiandi and still have room for lots of other things on mainly external memory:)
You mentioned the digitized Weiqi Tiandi - where did you get those?
If you look at any recent issue of Weiqi Tiandi (WQTD), in the very back two pages before the back cover is a seller of Chinese go books and other supplies. Look for the section which sells special products from the publisher of WQTD and you'll see a set which contains the first 300 issues of WQTD digitized. That would contain all the issues from the years 1985 to the end of 2006.
In the latest issue of WQTD which I have in my hands (2013 June 15th Issue #12), it is near the bottom of the second column of listings and has the identification number of A005 priced at RMB450
Not sure if there are any plans from the publisher of WQTD to offer other digitized issues for issues after 2006. But if you are interested in physical WQTD issues from the years thereafter, you can purchase the bound yearly volumes in the same section from the same seller for the years 2004 to 2012.

Please note that the seller is NOT Benshou as that site is just an important advertiser in the magazine which sells very nice go equipment amongst other things and has prominent ads in the first two pages of the magazine after the front cover. I think the seller may actually be very closely related to the publisher of WQTD but that is just my guess.

Re: Device for reading Go World Magazine in Digital Form

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:39 pm
by Ember
@ tchan001: Thank you for clarifying! So I'd better stick to 32GB then.

@ Marcel GrĂ¼nauer: Wow, that's a very impressive number! I guess you put a lot of time into removing those pages from the Go Review.

Re: Device for reading Go World Magazine in Digital Form

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:49 am
by tchan001
Boidhre, what do you think of the newest Chinese android tablets out now with 9.7 inch retina quality screens with the same resolution as iPad?
Stuff like this
http://www.tabletreviewspecs.com/pipo-m ... eview.html

Re: Device for reading Go World Magazine in Digital Form

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:11 pm
by Boidhre
tchan001 wrote:Boidhre, what do you think of the newest Chinese android tablets out now with 9.7 inch retina quality screens with the same resolution as iPad?
Stuff like this
http://www.tabletreviewspecs.com/pipo-m ... eview.html
I've read quite a lot of reviews commenting on rather uneven hardware quality (generally things like headphone ports not working and similar), poor firmware, a lot of apps refusing to install and other problems. I'm holding my opinion until a couple of people who've ordered them get theirs and have time to put them to the test. I'm really not impressed by the lack of reputable reviews of the tablets in question.


As I've said before, the issue isn't the hardware with Android vs iPhone, the top end Android stuff is the equal if not superior to the top iPhones. The issue is iOS vs Android and specifically the two app stores.

Re: Device for reading Go World Magazine in Digital Form

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:16 pm
by alejo
Boidhre wrote: Crisper text because of the greater resolution with the Retina display over the Galaxy Tab display.
The iOS App Store has exclusive go apps whereas Android doesn't have any that don't have equivalents on iOS.

Either of these might justify the much greater cost of the iPad for you or they may not
1. High end devices, such as Nexus 10, offer the same or even better resolution than the iPad.
2. While this used to be true, it's no more. One sample in Go is the KGS app, which doesn't exist in iPad. However, there are still some apps which exist in only one market and not the other, but this works both ways nowadays.

Lastly, and this is just my personal opinion, the only fact which currently justifies the greater cost of the iPad is the apple logo at the backside

Re: Device for reading Go World Magazine in Digital Form

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:02 am
by Boidhre
alejo wrote:
Boidhre wrote: Crisper text because of the greater resolution with the Retina display over the Galaxy Tab display.
The iOS App Store has exclusive go apps whereas Android doesn't have any that don't have equivalents on iOS.

Either of these might justify the much greater cost of the iPad for you or they may not
1. High end devices, such as Nexus 10, offer the same or even better resolution than the iPad.
2. While this used to be true, it's no more. One sample in Go is the KGS app, which doesn't exist in iPad. However, there are still some apps which exist in only one market and not the other, but this works both ways nowadays.

Lastly, and this is just my personal opinion, the only fact which currently justifies the greater cost of the iPad is the apple logo at the backside
1. We were talking about a specific model of Galaxy Tab. The Nexus 10's got better dpi but from reviews it's very hard to tell with them side by side unless you look at them from a couple of inches away. The colour is also more vibrant on the Nexus 10 which is either a plus or a minus depending on your tastes (personally I prefer less vibrant so I was very happy with my Galaxy SIII after the SII)

2. This isn't true. Sorry, I own devices with both operating systems and the Android app store is still poor in comparison. Apart from KGS, which is irrelevant with a HTML5 version coming, I don't see anything Android specific in go apps that iOS doesn't have an equivalent for. On the other hand there aren't Android equivalents to SmartGo Books, Easy Go, Go Eye etc. There are others like Tygem that only have their iOS version in English, though this may not matter to you.

Re: Device for reading Go World Magazine in Digital Form

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:12 am
by tchan001
Boidhre wrote: 1. We were talking about a specific model of Galaxy Tab.
No, this thread is about suggesting devices which would be good for reading go world magazine in digital form. It's not about Samsung vs Apple. My main point about the benefits of my Samsung Note 10.1 is that I can store the whole of Go World Magazine archive along with a host of other things externally on a micro SD card and that this option is not available on the iPad. It's not about SmartGo Books or other apps which are specific to the platforms. That would be a different topic.

Re: Device for reading Go World Magazine in Digital Form

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:44 am
by Boidhre
tchan001 wrote:
Boidhre wrote: 1. We were talking about a specific model of Galaxy Tab.
No, this thread is about suggesting devices which would be good for reading go world magazine in digital form. It's not about Samsung vs Apple. My main point about the benefits of my Samsung Note 10.1 is that I can store the whole of Go World Magazine archive along with a host of other things externally on a micro SD card and that this option is not available on the iPad. It's not about SmartGo Books or other apps which are specific to the platforms. That would be a different topic.
This thread is about devices in general, my post was about a specific device mentioned in your post which was clear due to my mentioning of said device.

Re: Device for reading Go World Magazine in Digital Form

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:11 am
by tchan001
Boidhre wrote:
tchan001 wrote:So you are saying my Samsung Galaxy TAB 10.1 is not a reasonable choice because it is not iPad with Retina.
There are only two issues really:

Crisper text because of the greater resolution with the Retina display over the Galaxy Tab display.
The iOS App Store has exclusive go apps whereas Android doesn't have any that don't have equivalents on iOS.

Either of these might justify the much greater cost of the iPad for you or they may not. Also this only considers go and ignores other reasons you might favour Android over iOS as an operating system.
So what does this have to do with whether the Samsung is a reasonable choice of device for reading Go World magazine on a device? You may argue that the iPad has greater resolution, but does that make the Samsung unreasonable as a reading device for Go World magazines?
Gorim wrote:my main motivator for a purchase is reading the Go World Magazine, I am mostly interested how these devices would cope with it, the diagrams it consist, etc.
The OP is not concerned with additional exclusive go apps.

Re: Device for reading Go World Magazine in Digital Form

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:17 am
by Boidhre
tchan001 wrote: So what does this have to do with whether the Samsung is a reasonable choice of device for reading Go World magazine on a device? You may argue that the iPad has greater resolution, but does that make the Samsung unreasonable as a reading device for Go World magazines?
Same as a Nexus 10. I'd always go for the higher resolution tablet if I could afford it because of the better text quality. It doesn't make the Galaxy Tab unreasonable, just less preferable.

Re: Device for reading Go World Magazine in Digital Form

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:19 am
by tchan001
And the Pipo M6 has the same resolution as the iPad and is much more affordable and has a micro SD slot ;)

Re: Device for reading Go World Magazine in Digital Form

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:28 am
by Boidhre
tchan001 wrote:And the Pipo M6 has the same resolution as the iPad and is much more affordable and has a micro SD slot ;)
I'm wary of the new influx of budget Chinese tablets promising superb specs at prices that are well out of whack with the main Android tablet makers. Usually you don't get those deep discounts in price without compromising somewhere else. The Nexus 10 is cheaper than the iPad and is a very high quality device, stick with recommending that one until more reviews are in for the Pipo et al.