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Re: European Go Championship
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:44 pm
by hyperpape
Interesting results for the poll. I guess Fan Hui got all the cold hearted rationalists, and Antti got all the sentimentalists, leaving poor Ilja in a distant third.
Also, what can you all tell me about Pavol Lisy? I have heard the name, but know almost nothing about him.
Pavol
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:04 am
by OferZ
I've been studying in Korea with Pavol in 2009.
Back then he was around 1k-1d and perhaps 15 years old (which makes him around 19 now), maybe younger...
But he's been playing since the age of 6.
He showed great reading ability there, and generally an aggressive style.
I think playing with strong players was the main thing that helped him get his talent to the next level.
He didn't like studying, but he learned many josekis there and started putting them to use.
When he got back to Europe (after only 3 months) he started showing great results immediately and progressed to from 2d to 3d in 2009 and to 5d in 2010. Since 2012 he's a steady 6d.
I'd say in general his main attributes are strong reading, fighting spirit and good concentration.
Re: European Go Championship
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:19 am
by daal
hyperpape wrote:Interesting results for the poll. I guess Fan Hui got all the cold hearted rationalists, and Antti got all the sentimentalists, leaving poor Ilja in a distant third.
Also, what can you all tell me about Pavol Lisy? I have heard the name, but know almost nothing about him.
He's "cheater" on KGS.
Re: European Go Championship
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:24 am
by lobotommy
Today Mateusz Surma lost to Fan, and Thomas Debarre won against a korean player.
I'm sad and happy in the same time

Fan is strong, but today's game with Mateusz was very close and was decided at the very end so I still hope that Mateusz can win EGC. Just Fan need to lost one game

Re: European Go Championship
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:30 am
by tj86430
Any result on Antti vs Pavol?
Re: European Go Championship
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:35 am
by RBerenguel
Antti won by 2.5 points. Very interesting game
European Go Championship
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:35 am
by lobotommy
Antti won by 2.5 point.
Re: European Go Championship
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:50 am
by walpurgis
tj86430 wrote:Any result on Antti vs Pavol?
Antti won by 2,5 points.
edit: way too slow

European Go Championship
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:51 am
by lobotommy
Ask once - get multiple answers

. L19 !
Re: European Go Championship
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:40 pm
by walpurgis
Round 4 results are in (they took their time today):
http://egc2013.go.art.pl/EGC2013_main.htmlPoll, in order of tournament ranking:
1. Fan Hui ================== Won | 4W/0L
1. Antti Tormanen =========== Won | 4W/0L
3. Pavol Lisy ================ Lost | 3W/1L
3. Mateusz Surma ============ Lost | 3W/1L
8. Thomas Debarre =========== Won | 3W/1L
8. Breakfast ================= Won | 3W/1L
8. Ilya Shikshin ============== Won | 3W/1L
13. Ondrej Silt =============== Won | 4W/0L (-1 point, see above)
16. Csaba Mero ============== Won | 2W/2L
29. Ali Jabarin =============== Lost | 2W/2L
35. Cornel Burzo ============= Won | 2W/2L
As we already know, Antti and Fan Hui continue on as the only undefeated players in the top group with MMS of 38. I can't wait for tomorrow's match between them - will Antti be able to put up a fight against Fan? Also a nice touch for Europeans is that Thomas Debarre beat Kim Won-Tae, a 7-dan Korean.
Altogether at the "second" spot at MMS of 37 there are currently 11 people, including Juri Kuronen as the second Finn =)
Re: European Go Championship
Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:00 am
by hyperpape
Antti lost to Fan. It couldn't be less surprising after round 5:
Fan is at 5 wins.
Antti Tormanen, Pavol Lisy, Mateusz Surma, Thomas Debarre, Alexandr Dinerstein, Ilja Shikshin and Ondrej Silt have 4 wins*.
I believe that if you took the top rated competitors, dropped Artem and Csaba Mero, then added Mateusz, you'd have this list.
*(Ondrej has 5 wins, but started in a non-supergroup bracket).
Re: European Go Championship
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:54 am
by HermanHiddema
Ilja Shikshin won the weekend tournament with a perfect 5/5 score.
Fan Hui came second with 4/5, losing to Shikshin in round 4.
Ali Jabarin came third, also with 4/5, losing to Fan in round 3.
Re: European Go Championship
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:43 am
by walpurgis
Round 5 results:
http://egc2013.go.art.pl/EGC2013_main.htmlPoll, in order of tournament ranking:
1. Fan Hui ================== Won | 5W/0L
2. Antti Tormanen =========== Lost | 4W/1L
3. Pavol Lisy ================ Won | 4W/1L
3. Mateusz Surma ============ Won | 4W/1L
5. Thomas Debarre =========== Won | 4W/1L
6. Ilya Shikshin ============== Won | 4W/1L
7. Breakfast ================= Won | 4W/1L
8. Ondrej Silt ================ Won | 5W/0L (-1 point, see above)
19. Ali Jabarin =============== Won | 3W/2L
26. Cornel Burzo ============= Won | 3W/2L
27. Csaba Mero ============== Lost | 2W/3L
The weekend tournament round 4 game between Ilya and Fan marked Fan's first loss during the EGC. I'm hoping someone can repeat the feat in the main tournament to keep the chamionship open for as long as possible. Anyway, the game was quite typical of Ilya: full of fighting, ending with Ilya killing a big dragon. Worth having a look.
Antti is also covering his games (up to round 3 so far) on his blog:
http://gooften.net/---
Ilya Shikshin vs. Fan Hui - Weekend Tournament Round 4
http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3472
Re: European Go Championship
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:53 am
by HermanHiddema
Round 6 results are up.Fan keeps winning (beat Pavol Lisy), but next round he plays Shikshin...
Debarre keeps up strong performance by beating Dinerchtein
After round 7, there will be a top 8 KO for the title, so the next round is very important. All the players from places 5-16 need to win this round to keep a chance for the title. Numbers 1-4 are already certain to reach the play-offs.
Re: European Go Championship
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:50 am
by walpurgis
HermanHiddema wrote:Round 6 results are up.Fan keeps winning (beat Pavol Lisy), but next round he plays Shikshin...
Debarre keeps up strong performance by beating Dinerchtein
After round 7, there will be a top 8 KO for the title, so the next round is very important. All the players from places 5-16 need to win this round to keep a chance for the title. Numbers 1-4 are already certain to reach the play-offs.
KO = knockout tournament? Does that mean that if you're in the top 8 and lose on round 8, you can't become the champion? Or will they keep their MMS from previous rounds and continue as normal, just within their "mini-tournament"?