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So how about dropping honte and always speaking of thick move?:)

RobertJasiek wrote:So how about dropping honte and always speaking of thick move?:)

Because the two are not synonyms. There is great overlap, but there are honte that are not thick. For instance, http://senseis.xmp.net/?HonteLib6

This example move is thick: it creates thick shape and thickness (close to the edge, but thickness).

These discussions are great. I love it when high dans argue about things and even professionals disagree. That means I don't feel obligated to understand those things in order to get to 1 dan.

If a 1 dan can half-understand the fundamentals, awesome. Honte is rapidly showing up as something I don't have to understand beyond what has already been said, and since there is so much disagreement, I can safely ignore it for the time being, right?

dumbrope wrote:These discussions are great. I love it when high dans argue about things and even professionals disagree. That means I don't feel obligated to understand those things in order to get to 1 dan.

If a 1 dan can half-understand the fundamentals, awesome. Honte is rapidly showing up as something I don't have to understand beyond what has already been said, and since there is so much disagreement, I can safely ignore it for the time being, right?

Right.

If you ignore honte, you'd better know how to fight;)

RobertJasiek wrote:If you ignore honte, you'd better know how to fight;)

In Go, you better know how to fight regardless.
What does it have to do with honte?

Or are you trying to say that when you don't ignore honte you don't need to know how to fight?!?
Then - I disagree, as usual.

dumbrope wrote:These discussions are great. I love it when high dans argue about things and even professionals disagree. That means I don't feel obligated to understand those things in order to get to 1 dan.

If a 1 dan can half-understand the fundamentals, awesome. Honte is rapidly showing up as something I don't have to understand beyond what has already been said, and since there is so much disagreement, I can safely ignore it for the time being, right?

To be honest, if you want to get to 1-dan - or if you want to improve at go in general, this go forum is not the place to do it. This go forum is good for killing time, arguing, and ...?

Kirby wrote:To be honest, if you want to get to 1-dan - or if you want to improve at go in general, this go forum is not the place to do it. This go forum is good for killing time, arguing, and ...?

Whining about being in a slump?

Boidhre wrote:
Whining about being in a slump?

My comment is probably twofold:
1.) I visit the forum a lot, but I don't think that it has contributed to go playing ability.
2.) In general, I whine a lot on the forum (contributing to #1, perhaps).

Kirby wrote:

Boidhre wrote:
Whining about being in a slump?

My comment is probably twofold:
1.) I visit the forum a lot, but I don't think that it has contributed to go playing ability.
2.) In general, I whine a lot on the forum (contributing to #1, perhaps).

Once at an Irish tournament a player I was chatting to commented that I'd progressed extremely quickly as a go player. From raw beginner when he'd last seen me to the wizened forum dweller I had become. Apparently Irish players normally need to get to around 2-3 kyu before getting this far. As a mere 10 kyu, my rate of advancement was very impressive.

Boidhre wrote:Once at an Irish tournament a player I was chatting to commented that I'd progressed extremely quickly as a go player. From raw beginner when he'd last seen me to the wizened forum dweller I had become. Apparently Irish players normally need to get to around 2-3 kyu before getting this far. As a mere 10 kyu, my rate of advancement was very impressive.

Congratulations.

Boidhre wrote:

Kirby wrote:

Boidhre wrote:
Whining about being in a slump?

My comment is probably twofold:
1.) I visit the forum a lot, but I don't think that it has contributed to go playing ability.
2.) In general, I whine a lot on the forum (contributing to #1, perhaps).

Once at an Irish tournament a player I was chatting to commented that I'd progressed extremely quickly as a go player. From raw beginner when he'd last seen me to the wizened forum dweller I had become. Apparently Irish players normally need to get to around 2-3 kyu before getting this far. As a mere 10 kyu, my rate of advancement was very impressive.

I get the impression it's not your go playing he was commenting on

skydyr wrote:I get the impression it's not your go playing he was commenting on

I don't know, I could have given myself from the previous tournament six stones so I was doing ok at that point.

RobertJasiek wrote:This example move is thick: it creates thick shape and thickness (close to the edge, but thickness).

This could be a natural language issue. I don't think anyone I would discuss this move with would describe it as thick. Solid maybe? It's certainly removes a lot of aji, but I think for most people "thick" has an outwards facing connotation that this move does not?