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Re: 2014 Bailing Cup

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:54 am
by SoDesuNe
Chen Yaoye :cry:

Re: 2014 Bailing Cup

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:31 am
by trout
round of 8;
Ke Jie defeated Choi Cheolhan by resign.
Park Junghwan defeated Jin Siyoung by resign.
Qiu Jun defeated Kim Jiseok by resign.
Ahn Kukhyun defeated Zhang Weijie by resign.


Semi final; 9/18/14, 9/20/14, 9/21/14



Pairing for semi final,

Ke Jie vs Park Junghwan
Qiu Jun vs Ahn Kukhyun

Re: 2014 Bailing Cup

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:12 am
by trout
Semi final 1st game of 3,

Ke Jie defeated Park Junghwan by resign.
Ahn Kukhyun defeated Qiu Jun by 5.5.

Re: 2014 Bailing Cup

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:53 am
by Jingliu
Chen Yaoye may temporarily quit from top-level competition as he is now falling love with a girl :mrgreen:

Kejie may become the protagonist this year. ;-)

Re: 2014 Bailing Cup

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:32 am
by trout
Semi final 2nd game of 3,

Ke Jie defeated Park Junghwan by resign and advances to final.

Qiu Jun defeated Ahn Kukhyun by resign.
Qiu Jun vs Ahn Kukhyun 1:1

Re: 2014 Bailing Cup

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:55 pm
by macelee
The second semifinal game between Ke and Park is very interesting. Here are some highlights:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$B
$$ +---------------------------------------+
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
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$$ | . . . O X . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . 4 . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O 3 5 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X 1 2 O . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . X . . . O X X 6 X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]
To answer black's attack, Ke Jie played a wonderful tesuji :w6: - something like this may be seen in textbook but rare in real games.
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$W
$$ +---------------------------------------+
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
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$$ | . . . O X . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . 6 . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O 4 5 . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . O X X 3 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X X O O 2 7 , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . X . . . O X X 1 X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]
:b2: apparently doesn't work.
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[go]$$W
$$ +---------------------------------------+
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
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$$ | . . . O X . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . a . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . 9 8 O 0 7 . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . 4 3 O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X X O O 5 2 , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . X . . . O X X 1 X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . O . O . . 6 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]
After :w3: and :w5:, both forcing moves, :w7: is a tesuji. White 'a' will catpture black using a ladder, please confirm.
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[go]$$W
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$$ | . . . O X . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . a O . 5 . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . 4 3 O X X 6 8 . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X X O O 7 9 , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . X . . . O X X 1 X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . O . O . 0 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]
:b2: here doesn't work either. :b6: and :b8: cannot be at 'a' because of the ladder mentioned in previous diagram.
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[go]$$Wm11
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$$ | . . . O X . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . X O O X X X X 2 5 . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X X O O O O 1 X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . X . . . O X X O X 3 . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . O . O . X X 4 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]
White can connect after :w11:. Black is not strong enough to cut white. This diagram also explains why in the real game Park answered Ke's original tesuji by playing at :w15: and traded.
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[go]$$B
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O O X . . X 1 X O O O X . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X . X O O . O X X . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O . O X X O . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O X . . . O O X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X O O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . O O O . X X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O X O . O O X O . . X @ @ @ . . |
$$ | . . O 2 O X . X O X X O . X X @ X X . |
$$ | . . O O X . . X X O . O . X O X O X . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . O . O . O X O X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O . . O X X O X O . . |
$$ | . X . . . X . . X O O X X O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X X X O O O X , X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . X . . . O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . O . O . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]
The game became really difficult for both sides in the end, but :b1: (B173) is apparently a big mistake. White settled the ko and won the capturing race in the left side. Black could not kill white's dragon - as shown in the real game, white could sacrifice the 4 marked stones and make a second eye.

Re: 2014 Bailing Cup

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:12 am
by trout
Semi final 3rd game of 3,

Qiu Jun defeated Ahn Kukhyun by resign and face Ke Jie in final.

Final; Qiu Jun vs Ke Jie

Re: 2014 Bailing Cup

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:36 pm
by trout
Final;

1st game,
Ke Jie defeated Qiu Jun by resign.

2nd game:11/29/14

Re: 2014 Bailing Cup

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:29 am
by trout
Final;

2nd game,
Qiu Jun defeated Ke Jie by 0.5.

Qiu Jun vs Ke Jie - 1:1

Re: 2014 Bailing Cup

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:17 am
by macelee
The 3rd, 4th, and if needed the 5th games will be played in Zhuhai city next January.

Tournament Score Chart:

http://www.go4go.net/go/tournaments/sco ... 144-2-s64f

Re: 2014 Bailing Cup

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:22 am
by macelee
Final;

3rd game,
Qiu Jun defeated Ke Jie by resignation.

Qiu Jun vs Ke Jie - 2:1

Qiu Jun used an old variation of the large avalanche joseki and tricked Ke Jie, effectively securing this victory after just 50 moves

http://www.go4go.net/go/games/sgfview/45289
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$W
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 1 , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O X . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]
What should be black's next move?

Re: 2014 Bailing Cup

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:56 pm
by macelee
For those of you having GoGoD, you might want to check 1992-00-00b, which shows exactly the same situation as in today's Bailing Cup final. Ke Jie paid a price for being too young and he apparently got no chance to study something discovered more than 30 years ago.

BTW, GoGoD refers that game as 'National Physical Education Committe Go Team Selection Trials', something I cannot understand with my native Chinese knowledge . Sina Weiqi presents the same game as from the Chinese qualifying event of the 5th Fujitsu Cup. I have no way to know if this is true, but at least the player information has some consistency. The winner, Che Zewu 7-dan, is probably not well-known to many. But he went on to play in the 5th Fujitsu Cup main tournament, a rare appearance in an international tournament for him. He beat Lee Changho and Kobayashi Koichi to reach the quarter-final, a big achievement considering his opponents' strength.

Re: 2014 Bailing Cup

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:58 am
by trout
Final;

4th game,
Ke Jie defeated Qiu Jun by resignation.

Qiu Jun vs Ke Jie - 2:2

Re: 2014 Bailing Cup

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:38 pm
by Krama
macelee wrote:Final;

3rd game,
Qiu Jun defeated Ke Jie by resignation.

Qiu Jun vs Ke Jie - 2:1

Qiu Jun used an old variation of the large avalanche joseki and tricked Ke Jie, effectively securing this victory after just 50 moves

http://www.go4go.net/go/games/sgfview/45289
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$W
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 1 , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O X . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]
What should be black's next move?
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$W
$$ +---------------------------------------+
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 1 , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O O . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O X . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]
Seems like the most natural move, and josekipedia also says this is correct. This joseki probably has thousand variations. I can't imagine a person who would study this.

Re: 2014 Bailing Cup

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:45 am
by trout
Final;

5th game,
Ke Jie defeated Qiu Jun by resignation.

Qiu Jun vs Ke Jie - 2:3

Ke Jie is new Bailing cup Champion.

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** Qiu Jun was finalist in 2009 Samsung cup and the last Fujitsu cup but never won.
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