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Re: Big Brother Malkovich #3

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:22 pm
by dangomango
alright aphelion, we just need you to make the next move!
game on

Re: Big Brother Malkovich #3

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:17 pm
by Aphelion
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm23 Move 23... P: B-0, W-0... C: B-6(10) W-6(9)
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
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$$ | . . X , X . . . . , . . . . O , O . . |
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$$ | . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . O . X . . . X . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Are the correction numbers correct? I notice Black wasn't incremented in the last move, is that right?
Debated between this and the G10 cap. Still not sure which is better. I'm not so good at these sedentary situations, really hope a fight breaks out soon. My judgement of the relative value of moves isn't really very sharp unless there are clearly urgent moves on the board.

My feeling is that we are slightly behind because we got those extra stones to worry about without any attack on either black group to show for it (I also feel that jumping in to that 3 space gap was too early). I wonder if the honte thing to do is to play something around that area. However, I think this approach is also very big, and things if destabilize a little it plays more to my strengths.

Re: Big Brother Malkovich #3

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:56 pm
by Aphelion
Its Marcus' turn, I believe? These Malkovich games tend to drag on easily, lets move quickly if we can.

Re: Big Brother Malkovich #3

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:18 pm
by Redundant
Aphelion wrote:Its Marcus' turn, I believe? These Malkovich games tend to drag on easily, lets move quickly if we can.


I'm not sure how well shaddy will be able to keep up with this, as he's currently studying with Feng Yun 9p in China.

Re: Big Brother Malkovich #3

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:55 am
by jts
Redundant wrote:
Aphelion wrote:Its Marcus' turn, I believe? These Malkovich games tend to drag on easily, lets move quickly if we can.


I'm not sure how well shaddy will be able to keep up with this, as he's currently studying with Feng Yun 9p in China.

That's exciting! But he posted in the thread just a few days ago, so I don't think he's going to drop out. And no matter how busy he is, I doubt it will make him slower than Violence.

Re: Big Brother Malkovich #3

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:40 am
by Redundant
jts wrote:
Redundant wrote:
Aphelion wrote:Its Marcus' turn, I believe? These Malkovich games tend to drag on easily, lets move quickly if we can.


I'm not sure how well shaddy will be able to keep up with this, as he's currently studying with Feng Yun 9p in China.

That's exciting! But he posted in the thread just a few days ago, so I don't think he's going to drop out. And no matter how busy he is, I doubt it will make him slower than Violence.


He hasn't been on since he left for China. Just giving a little bit of a warning that he might be a bit flaky for a while.

Re: Big Brother Malkovich #3

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:03 am
by Marcus
Approved. :) (sorry, been sick)

Aph is only marginaly below me in skill. I don't know if I'll have the balls to change ay of hi moves ... we'll see ... :mrgreen:

Re: Big Brother Malkovich #3

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:06 pm
by Aphelion
Violence, its to you :p

Re: Big Brother Malkovich #3

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:51 am
by Violence
Yeaaah.... approved.

Re: Big Brother Malkovich #3

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:33 pm
by jts
Oops, I forgot that Violence is the enemy in this game.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm23 Move 23... P: B-0, W-0... C: B-6(10) W-6(9)
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . W . B . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , X . . . . , . . . . O , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . O . X . . . X . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I hate being submissive, but I think we have to. Thinking ahead... gosh, I really want C17, but I guess it's verboten. I figure with all four corners W will really have to kill E10 (or get an improbably large center) to win. My general strategic thinking at this point in the game goes like this: "can I lean on the second weakest group for three or four turns and then start trying to kill the weakest group?" So I keep looking at J5 (the crutch) and P10 (the victim), and it doesn't seem all that likely. Let's say I played K7... the threat is very weak. I can't realistically cut J5 from G8, although I might be able to get G10 in sente. And even if W replies to K8, there's no real follow-up leaning to be done (ideally, you want to lean somewhere where the opponent has to keep playing and playing to make his move consistent), so we don't have a lot of central strength, which means the group is going to live easily. And that means that our most likely gain from the attack is stones on the 12th row, chasing W. And that looks pretty useless to me, except maybe as a springboard to invade at M17. Maybe I should try to get M12 and L12, and then let W decide which side he wants to defend...?

Really, it doesn't look to me like there are a ton of points to be had on this board. I want C17.

Maybe I can start with G6; if he defends below, I get G10 in sente and might make some territory on the side, if he moves G8 out I can attack below.

Re: Big Brother Malkovich #3

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:16 am
by dangomango
approved

Re: Big Brother Malkovich #3

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:45 pm
by Aphelion
Mmmm, Shaddy hasn't even logged in for the last 3 weeks...

Re: Big Brother Malkovich #3

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:10 pm
by Redundant
Aphelion wrote:Mmmm, Shaddy hasn't even logged in for the last 3 weeks...


I just texted him. I'll update if he ever responds.

Re: Big Brother Malkovich #3

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:35 am
by Aphelion
So I'm guessing these Malkovich games are all dead? These games are pretty hard to continue so I believe we should stipulate some minimum level of participation next time.

Re: Big Brother Malkovich #3

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:41 am
by Redundant
Aphelion wrote:So I'm guessing these Malkovich games are all dead? These games are pretty hard to continue so I believe we should stipulate some minimum level of participation next time.


Shaddy is back in the states, but doesn´t have access to a laptop.

It´s more that next time you need to make sure that everyone has internet access.