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Posted: **Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:10 am**

skydyr wrote:... I think black is pretty happy to defend on the third line. ...

Defend? DEFEND?? This move is an overplay. Defending against it is giving it way more credit than it deserves. :grumpy:

We must push through.

If they want to engage in a pushing fight, I think that this is one of those rare occasions in which pushing from behind may be good for us.

This looks good:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X . . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . O , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . 3 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . 2 1 . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O X O . X . . . X . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

...as does this:

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...and this:

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Posted: **Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:59 am**

Posted: **Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:55 pm**

Disapproved. :tmbdown:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm32 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X . . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . O , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O X O . X . . . X . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I may be missing something obvious (renovating in large scale makes one very tired indeed...), but what on earth white is going to do after 33 below??? :scratch:

Since Splatted gave no clear plan of response to this most natural line, can't do anything but disapprove.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm32 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X . . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . O , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . 2 1 . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O X O . X . . . X . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The top left area seems most important, if black gets to play C below the position is too good by far and the white position on left seems even shabbier than now. I considered something like A or B but they seem too easy to respond. So let's try this first as it offers support to invasions at both D and E, and seems not trivial to answer, before deciding on course of action in corner. Not sure about my move. Apologies in advance, Splatted, if I messed it up...

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Posted: **Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:08 pm**

Posted: **Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:10 am**

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm32 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X . . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . a . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . 2 . . . . . . . . . O . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , b . . . . , . . . . O , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . b . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . b . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O X O . X . . . X . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This correction makes sense for white to me. White needs to do something about black's growing potential there and the other option didn't seem particularly effective, as I mentioned earlier. I am playing :b33:

because it makes miai of enclosing at A and causing damage at one of the B points. With a bit of luck, I can cause a lot of damage to white's other groups in the process of chasing out :w32:

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I thought for a while about alternatives, but couldn't really come up with anything good.

Posted: **Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:41 am**

I approve. :clap:

Posted: **Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:33 am**

I'll post more later.

I've been pretty quiet because I'm not sure what I think about this move. On the one hand, I can see Tim's point that I was being way too nice in letting black just wall off that area, but on the other... wtf do I do now? :-?

Clearly this stone can escape, but I'm a little worried about the price of doing so since both my nearby groups have significant weaknesses. I'm tempted to try and sacrifice with something like:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm1 The marked stones are 11 12 and 13 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . B W W . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . 0 7 X . O . . O . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X . 8 5 9 , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . 6 X 3 O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O 4 1 2 . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . O , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O X O . X . . . X . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This makes my top group nice and strong, but I wonder if it gives away too much? At the end of that sequence the F14 stone still has a lot of aji, so let's assume black uses his sente to play H13 and capture :w1:

: now he has about 35 points of pretty solid territory and strong central influence, so I'm going to have to rule out this sequence.

Posted: **Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:55 am**

Sorry for the slowness. I've been really busy recently and haven't had the energy to think about this move properly, but I'm free tomorrow and will definitely make a move then if I don't tonight.

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:04 pm**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm32 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X 3 . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . O , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O X O . X . . . X . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I thought about this a lot and I decided I don't like running out with this stone, since black gets to build influence chasing it and it doesn't actually do that much to reduce his territory.

Instead I decided to try and go deeper, and depending on how it goes I'm aiming for the cut at a, splitting off and attacking the two marked stones, or invading the corner.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm32 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X 3 . a . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . B . B . . . . . . . . . O . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . O , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O X O . X . . . X . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Here's what seems like the most likely continuation:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . 1 3 X a O . . O . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O 2 8 9 0 . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . 5 4 . . X a O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 7 6 . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . O , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O X O . X . . . X . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

White plays whichever a black doesn;t play, and then it's a fight between two weak groups.

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:28 pm**

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:22 pm**

This can't be the right follow up.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc 11 at 2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . 7 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . 9 2 5 X . O . . O . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X 1 3 4 . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . 8 0 X . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . O , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]

It looks like white can live, but it is not worth it, IMHO.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . 8 . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 9 7 6 . O X 2 3 . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . 1 O O O X 5 O . . O . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O O X . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . X X X . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . O , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]

EDIT:

Maybe white can't live.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 5 4 . . O X 1 . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 3 2 O O O X . O . . O . X . . . . | $$ | . . X 6 X O O X . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . 8 9 7 X X X . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . O , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . c 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | b 6 0 4 8 O X 1 . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 9 2 3 O O O X . O . . O . X . . . . | $$ | . a X 5 X O O X . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . X X X . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . O , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]

Posted: **Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:44 am**

Approved.

First of all, little brother's plan is faulty: black will not play either A, but B and capture by squeezing.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . 1 3 X a O . . O . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O 2 8 9 0 . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . 5 4 b . X a O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 7 6 . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . O , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O X O . X . . . X . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Happily, the current move is useful in the following sequence, if black is unreasonable and blocks connection with 39. This 36 is my plan...

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm32 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . 4 . X . O . . O . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X 3 . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 7 9 0 O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 5 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 8 B . B . . . . . . . . . O . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . O , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O X O . X . . . X . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

In my opinion, white should aim to stabilize the left side group with 36 above, instead of trying operations on top. Reason: whichever of top or left white moves against, black will be streghtened towards the other, and left white is weaker than top.

Btw. If white wished to play against top with 34, G17 seems much better than this F16. No more diagrams, sorry, on iPad.

Posted: **Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:29 am**

For TIM82:

Posted: **Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:41 pm**

Posted: **Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:09 pm**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm32 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X 3 . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . 4 X . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . O , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O X O . X . . . X . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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