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Yithril vs. Chew Terr

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Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:40 pm
by jts
Chew Terr wrote:
I was numbering the values of chunks of territory. Regardless of stone colors, two 1s next to each other meant that region was worth 11. This was summing a very hand-wavey estimate.


That... makes so much sense.

Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:58 pm
by Numsgil
@Chew
Ahaha, yes, that makes sense. That's a good way of doing it, now that I understand it :P

Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:20 pm
by Chew Terr
Numsgil wrote:@Chew
Ahaha, yes, that makes sense. That's a good way of doing it, now that I understand it :P


On a real board, of course, I mark the chunks with a dry-erase marker.

Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:58 pm
by yithril
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm140 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , X 2 . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:09 pm
by Chew Terr
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm140 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . 3 . . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:27 pm
by yithril
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Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:40 pm
by yithril
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm140 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 4 . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Okay, so I cannot let me have this point.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm140 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . 2 1 . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X 4 3 . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . . X O . 5 O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This is terrible. There is no other description for it. I'm going to have to hang tough on the left side, and hope the pain doesn't last too long.

Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:25 am
by Chew Terr
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm140 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . 5 X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



Aiming to make some points in sente here. This is going as well as I could expect.
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm140 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . b . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . a X O . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 4 . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . 9 5 X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . 7 O O 6 . . . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . 8 0 X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Just ordered your new book! Looking forward to it.~

Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:18 pm
by yithril
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm140 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . X X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . 6 . . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Only move I feel comfortable with. He can't use any aji on the right to kill this group.

Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:27 pm
by Chew Terr
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm140 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . X X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . 7 O O . O . . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

May I have some stones, please?

Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:41 pm
by yithril
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm140 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X 8 . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . X X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . X O O . O . . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:43 am
by Chew Terr
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm140 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . X X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . X O O . O . . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . 9 X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I could be wrong, but capturing in sente seems as big as any small loss I could suffer on the left side for this. After this, if white defends I can still take the star point for points in sente. If white pushes into the left, I'm okay with being forced to capture some stones in exchange for the several points I'll lose.

Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:29 pm
by yithril
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm140 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . X X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . X O O . O . . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . 0 X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:59 pm
by Chew Terr
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm150 Prisoner Count: B-3 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . X X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . X O O . O . . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . O X C X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . 2 1 3 O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I should add the captured stone to 'b', right? Feel free to turn down this trigger.

Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:05 pm
by Kirby
@Chew:
Did you also consider capturing immediately? What made you turn that possibility down?
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