$$Wcm101 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . | $$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . , . . O X . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . 5 . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , . . . X . X X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm101 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . | $$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . , . . O X . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . 5 . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , . . . X . X X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
There is some aji on top, which I can only hope he doesn't expose right now. I will have to wait until I get a chance to defend, or I'll have no chance to win.
I'll post later what I'm talking about.
Re: 132 Kirby vs. tj86430 (4-stone hcp)
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:03 am
by tj86430
$$Wcm101 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . | $$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . , . . O X . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , . 6 . X . X X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm101 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . | $$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . , . . O X . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , . 6 . X . X X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Interesting move. I think it is an overplay, but OTOH that's expected from a stronger player who is behind. I need to keep him cut off from any friendly stones, and not let him have enough space to live. There are plenty of choices, somehow this seems most natural.
Re: 132 Kirby vs. tj86430 (4-stone hcp)
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:52 pm
by Kirby
$$Wcm101 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . | $$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . , . . O X . , . . 7 . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm101 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . | $$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . , . . O X . , . . 7 . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I feel so dishonest playing this game...
Re: 132 Kirby vs. tj86430 (4-stone hcp)
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:10 pm
by tj86430
$$Wcm101 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . | $$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X 8 . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . , . . O X . , . . O . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm101 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . | $$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X 8 . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . , . . O X . , . . O . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I don't know if he will be able to live or not (I hope not), but I can't let him start harrassing my group and connect invading stones to safety.
Re: 132 Kirby vs. tj86430 (4-stone hcp)
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:14 pm
by Kirby
$$Wcm101 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . | $$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . , . . O X . , . . O . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O . 9 X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm101 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . | $$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . , . . O X . , . . O . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O . 9 X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Meh, what can I do?... :-p
Re: 132 Kirby vs. tj86430 (4-stone hcp)
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:26 pm
by tj86430
$$Wcm101 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . | $$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . , . . O X . , . . O . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . 0 . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O . O X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm101 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . | $$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . , . . O X . , . . O . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . 0 . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O . O X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Seems natural. I need to try to prevent him making two eyes.
Re: 132 Kirby vs. tj86430 (4-stone hcp)
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:53 am
by Kirby
$$Wcm111 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . | $$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . , . . O X . , . . O . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . 1 X . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O . O X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm111 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . | $$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . , . . O X . , . . O . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . 1 X . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O . O X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: 132 Kirby vs. tj86430 (4-stone hcp)
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:18 am
by Laman
black is winning despite his unnecessary sacrifice. it looks hard for white to make a life even if black tenukis and takes a big point instead - close off the bottom or prevent white lower left sansan. enclosing the bottom is better from the two, as white's attempts to live creates aji useful for future reduction along the lower side. although black should be ahead even with just keeping white dead and giving away both big points
white peep N3 might give Kirby the best prospects, but even then i can't see a realistic way to win. let's see
Re: 132 Kirby vs. tj86430 (4-stone hcp)
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:27 am
by tj86430
$$Wcm111 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . | $$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . , . . O X . , . . O . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X X . . . . 2 . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . O X . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O . O X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm111 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . | $$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . , . . O X . , . . O . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X X . . . . 2 . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . O X . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O . O X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: 132 Kirby vs. tj86430 (4-stone hcp)
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:35 am
by Magicwand
Laman wrote:
black is winning despite his unnecessary sacrifice. it looks hard for white to make a life even if black tenukis and takes a big point instead - close off the bottom or prevent white lower left sansan. enclosing the bottom is better from the two, as white's attempts to live creates aji useful for future reduction along the lower side. although black should be ahead even with just keeping white dead and giving away both big points
white peep N3 might give Kirby the best prospects, but even then i can't see a realistic way to win. let's see
I think it's more likely to live then die so white seems to be ahead for now
Re: 132 Kirby vs. tj86430 (4-stone hcp)
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:39 pm
by Loons
I don't see as a good move. What does it do? Maybe instead play L9 peep to damage local eyeshape and set to work building bottom?
I mean, a move seems somewhat necessary:
$$Wcm111 Seems pretty lifey. $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . | $$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . , . . O X . , . . O . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X X . . 5 . 3 . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . O X 4 X . X . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O . O X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . | $$ | 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm111 Seems pretty lifey. $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . | $$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . , . . O X . , . . O . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X X . . 5 . 3 . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . O X 4 X . X . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O . O X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . | $$ | 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
$$Wcm111 If white fishes for life like this, black's cut at 'a' is less good than if he played L9, and white's shape is better if he gets to play 'a'. $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . | $$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . , . . O X . , . . O . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X X . . . a 2 . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . O X . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O . O X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , 3 X . X . X X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm111 If white fishes for life like this, black's cut at 'a' is less good than if he played L9, and white's shape is better if he gets to play 'a'. $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . | $$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . , . . O X . , . . O . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X X . . . a 2 . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . O X . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O . O X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , 3 X . X . X X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Perhaps playing from bottom directly would be even better?
Re: 132 Kirby vs. tj86430 (4-stone hcp)
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:22 pm
by Kirby
$$Wcm111 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . | $$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . , . . O X . , . . O . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X X . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . O X . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O . O X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm111 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . | $$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . , . . O X . , . . O . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X X . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . O X . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O . O X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I just wanna live here.
Re: 132 Kirby vs. tj86430 (4-stone hcp)
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:34 am
by tj86430
$$Wcm111 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . | $$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . , . . O X . , . . O . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X X . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . O X . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O . O X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . 4 . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm111 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . | $$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . , . . O X . , . . O . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X X . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . O X . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O . O X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . 4 . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: 132 Kirby vs. tj86430 (4-stone hcp)
Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:32 am
by Kirby
$$Wcm111 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . | $$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . , . . O X . , . . O . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X X . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . O X . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O . O X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . 5 X . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm111 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X . O X X X X O . . . . . O O O . | $$ | . O . X X O X X O O X X . O O X X O . | $$ | . . O . . O O X X O O X O . X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X O O X X X O O . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . O X O O X X X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O X . . O . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . , . . O X . , . . O . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X X . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . O X . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O . O X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . 5 X . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . X X . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X . X . X X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
The game must go on~!
Re: 132 Kirby vs. tj86430 (4-stone hcp)
Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:34 am
by tj86430
Kirby,
it's good to see that our game continues.
I'll have to reorient myself, I will try to make my move tomorrow.
as a good move. What does it do? Maybe instead play L9 peep to damage local eyeshape and set to work building bottom?