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Re: Seattle Go Center sues Nihon Ki-in Japan
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:20 am
by oren
Bok Choi wrote:Has there been a follow-up article to the Yomiuri's 9 May article? Can anyone translate it?
I posted this in another topic.
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/national/cultu ... T01124.htmYou can use Google Translate.
Re: Seattle Go Center sues Nihon Ki-in Japan
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:20 pm
by daal
Um... Am I missing something? After 9 pages of heated discussion, the news floats in that there has been a shake up in the Nihon Ki-in's board and that they have backed down from their plan to close the Seattle Go Center, and nobody has anything to say about it?
Re: Seattle Go Center sues Nihon Ki-in Japan
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:29 am
by tapir
daal wrote:Um... Am I missing something? After 9 pages of heated discussion, the news floats in that there has been a shake up in the Nihon Ki-in's board and that they have backed down from their plan to close the Seattle Go Center, and nobody has anything to say about it?
Thank you, Nihon Ki-in.
Re: Seattle Go Center sues Nihon Ki-in Japan
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:06 am
by jts
daal wrote:Um... Am I missing something? After 9 pages of heated discussion, the news floats in that there has been a shake up in the Nihon Ki-in's board and that they have backed down from their plan to close the Seattle Go Center, and nobody has anything to say about it?
I think we are waiting for some official confirmation before breaking out the bubbly.
Re: Seattle Go Center sues Nihon Ki-in Japan
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:14 am
by Joaz Banbeck
According to Google:
Yomiuri wrote:Nihon Ki (President Norio Wada) has decided to cancel the sale of rice Seattle Go Center.
Go institution is notified in writing to sell the same center as the "agonizing choice" in the name of the then president Otake Hideo in March. That was causing the U.S. District Court in Washington State lawsuit is a membership organization of local strong opposition On the other hand, seek the suspension of the sale.
However, with the voice of doubt is raised from Japanese players on the sale, to the transition to the new system the executive go club on June 26, 2009, was re-examined. It is determined that the desired result, there is also concern that protracted litigation, withdrew the sale policy, and to utilize it as a base for future dissemination.
Re: Seattle Go Center sues Nihon Ki-in Japan
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:20 pm
by Redbeard
This news has floated in from the Daily Yomiuri, but at this time there is no official word from the Nihon Ki-in or The Seattle Go Center about the status of the building or the pending lawsuit. The article is a very good sign, but may be an unsubstantiated rumor. I'm holding my celebration until the the lawsuit is resolved.
Re: Seattle Go Center sues Nihon Ki-in Japan
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:48 am
by xed_over
just got this email on the members list today...
To the members and friends of the Seattle Go Center
The Board of Directors of the Seattle Go Center is very pleased to announce that we have determined that our legal action against the Nihon Ki-in is no longer necessary, and have therefore withdrawn our lawsuit.
Representatives for both the Go Center and the Nihon Ki-in are in agreement that we can amicably resolve any issues in a manner that is beneficial to both parties, and that will allow both organizations to continue fulfilling our mutual goals of sharing, teaching and promoting Go in the United States in the tradition of Iwamoto-Sensei. We are deeply grateful to the Nihon Ki-in for their willingness to put this incident behind us and work together toward resolution in the spirit of friendship and cooperation which has been the hallmark of our relationship from even before the founding of the Seattle Go Center.
The Board of Directors wishes to express our sincere gratitude for the unfailing support and generosity that the Nihon Ki-in has always extended to us, and we look forward to continuing the friendship long into the future. We would also like to thank the members of the Seattle Go Center for their unwavering commitment during this difficult period.
Sincerely,
Andrew B. Gross
President, Seattle Go Center Board of Directors
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:10 pm
by EdLee
http://www.gocongress.org/2012/attendees/vipZero Nihon Ki-in pros registered as of today Aug 3, 2012.
Maybe this is the first year ever -- the archive records can tell us.
We'll see what happens from now on.
In Go we learn to look at both the local situations and the big picture.
It'll take time to see the full ramifications.
Re: Seattle Go Center sues Nihon Ki-in Japan
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:58 pm
by jts
And that makes Maeda what, Portuguese?
Re: Seattle Go Center sues Nihon Ki-in Japan
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:02 pm
by oren
jts wrote:And that makes Maeda what, Portuguese?
Kansai Kiin.
He came to the Seattle Go Center for a couple lectures before heading to to the congress.
I'm pretty sure lack of Nihon Kiin professionals has nothing to do with the SGC.
Re: Seattle Go Center sues Nihon Ki-in Japan
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:10 pm
by jts
oren wrote:jts wrote:And that makes Maeda what, Portuguese?
Kansai Kiin.
He came to the Seattle Go Center for a couple lectures before heading to to the congress.
I'm pretty sure lack of Nihon Kiin professionals has nothing to do with the SGC.
Ah ok. I misunderstood Ed's point.
Re: Seattle Go Center sues Nihon Ki-in Japan
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:52 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
I fear that having the 2013 Congress in Seattle may be viewed by the Kiin as an insult.
Re: Seattle Go Center sues Nihon Ki-in Japan
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:07 am
by Javaness2
If that's an insult, what was closing the Seattle Go Centre?
Re: Seattle Go Center sues Nihon Ki-in Japan
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:02 pm
by Hsiang
Joaz Banbeck wrote:I fear that having the 2013 Congress in Seattle may be viewed by the Kiin as an insult.
Silly nonsense.
Re: Seattle Go Center sues Nihon Ki-in Japan
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:37 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
Hsiang wrote:Joaz Banbeck wrote:I fear that having the 2013 Congress in Seattle may be viewed by the Kiin as an insult.
Silly nonsense.
I'd prefer facts or at least a well argued opinion backing up a comment like that.
On the surface, there are official pronouncements of love and brotherhood between the Kiin and the SGC. But the Kiin may feel that they were publicly humiliated by the result. As Ed Lee suggests, they may be withholding their participation in Congress because of it.
The SGC filed suit. In Japan, the number of lawsuits per capita is at least two orders of magnitude less than here in the US. It is something that the Japanese do not do except under the most pressing circumstances. I'm not sure how they interpret the filing of a lawsuit, but I'm sure that it is not the same way that an American would.
If the Kiin has lost face in the dispute, choosing Seattle may be viewed as calling attention to the fact, and therefore insulting.