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#171 Hyperpape vs. illluck

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Re: #171 Hyperpape vs. illluck

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:01 pm
by hyperpape
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wm96 Prisoners: :b1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . . X O O O O O X O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X X X X X O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . , . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . O O . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X 1 X X O X X X . . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . . 3 O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . O . O X O O O . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . O O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . X . . O . . O X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O . . . X X . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
If you atari, I'll connect. If not, then play your alternative.

This could be crude and/or burn some aji, but I really think I need to live in sente, and playing here makes an eye while retaining sente.

My counting is not so hot, but I am considering resigning if must live in gote. I count that he has as much territory on the board as I do, but he also has a lot of potential around the triangled area. We'll see: it will require more thought than I've given it so far, as there are some big areas left on the board.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wm88 Prisoners: :b1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . . X O O O O O X O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . C X X X X X O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . T . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . T . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . , . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . C X . . O O . . X . |
$$ | . . . C . . . . . X O X X O X X X . . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . . O O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . O . O X O O O . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . O O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . X . . O . . O X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O . . . X X . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #171 Hyperpape vs. illluck

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:05 am
by illluck
Sorry, personal laptop's keyboard stopped working due to humidity.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wm96 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . . X O O O O O X O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X X X X X O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . , . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X 4 . O O . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X X X . . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . . O O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . O . O X O O O . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . O O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . X . . O . . O X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O . . . X X . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

My main aim here is to kill off the white stones as cleanly as possible.

Re: #171 Hyperpape vs. illluck

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:25 pm
by hyperpape
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wm96 Prisoners: :b1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . . X O O O O O X O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X X X X X O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . , . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 2 4 . O O . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 5 X 1 X X O X X X . . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . . 3 O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . O . O X O O O . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . O O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . X . . O . . O X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O . . . X X . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #171 Hyperpape vs. illluck

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:26 pm
by hyperpape
I just want to make sure you're not playing because of keyboard/time troubles, and not because my last post slipped under your radar. Take as much time as you'd like.

Re: #171 Hyperpape vs. illluck

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:36 pm
by illluck
Opps! Keyboard issue has been resolved, just that I've been working a bit of overtime (busy season for auditors) and so I've procrastinated a while ago and then managed to forget I had to make a move :oops:

I'll respond this weekend :)

Re: #171 Hyperpape vs. illluck

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:24 pm
by illluck
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wm96 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . . X O O O O O X O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X X X X X O O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . . , . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 6 X X . O O . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X O X X O X X X . . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . . O O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . O . O X O O O . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . O O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . X . . O . . O X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O . . . X X . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The reason I didn't immediately respond was because I had trouble deciding between the tiger mouth and the connect. Often the connect is better because it doesn't give white the atari, but I felt like the tiger mouth helps centre a bit more. I still ended up playing the connect because it's more sente-ish. Another move I briefly considered was the push through, but the cutting point is too dangerous.

Re: #171 Hyperpape vs. illluck

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:25 am
by illluck
Bump?

Re: #171 Hyperpape vs. illluck

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:21 am
by hyperpape
Seen. I'm trying to count, but I'm also packing in preparation for closing on a house next Wednesday.

Re: #171 Hyperpape vs. illluck

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:05 pm
by illluck
Bump? Or motion to just read the comments?

Re: #171 Hyperpape vs. illluck

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:36 am
by hyperpape
I resign.

I'll try to say more later, but my lad attempt to count put you well ahead, with just a minuscule chance that I could somehow find enough points to reverse the game.

Well played, and thank you for the game.

Re: #171 Hyperpape vs. illluck

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:24 am
by illluck
Thank you for the game. I agree that I think the game is a bit easier for black, but there are still quite a lot of unsettled areas so it's really hard to say for sure. I look forward to reading some comments when I have a bit more time tonight :)
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