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Posted: **Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:47 pm**

KataGo self-play (New Zealand rules, 7 komi) - game 1: https://online-go.com/review/442122

It was not a tie.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Starting at game 44, we will explore 3-4 openings as well. $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B a . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Comments by EverettLiu, OGS 9d.

Posted: **Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:33 pm**

KataGo self-play (New Zealand rules, 7 komi) - game 2: https://online-go.com/review/446099

Not a tie, either. In fact, the shortest self-play game in this thread so far. Each side has huge territories.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc At least thirty-five games continue at D4. Eighteen games continue at a instead. $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . W . . . . . . . . . . . a . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Posted: **Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:34 pm**

After one win from each colour, we have our first tie!

KataGo self-play (New Zealand rules, 7 komi) - game 3: https://online-go.com/review/447990

Interesting winrate graph: https://i.ibb.co/rpyTgR3/Screen-Shot-20 ... -55-AM.png

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Game 2 continued at a instead of G4. Game 5 will split off at b. $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . b . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . O B . . . . . . a X X . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . O X O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Posted: **Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:39 am**

Game 4 (self-play, New Zealand rules, 7 komi) featured four dragons duking it out in the center. One side sacrifices eighteen stones and ends up winning the game by 72 points or so. New title holder of "shortest game in this thread"

https://online-go.com/demo/view/448780

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc Game 1 continued at a instead of F17. Game 40 will continue at b. $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O a . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . b . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Posted: **Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:37 pm**

Game 5 is our newest winner of "shortest game in the thread so far": W+20 or so. https://online-go.com/demo/view/448967

At some point, I'll split a game at a instead of M5:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Game 11 will continue at a instead of M5. $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . X . O . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . a . . O . X . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . O X . . . . . . X X X . . . | $$ | . . . . O X O . . . . . O O X O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:25 am**

Game 6 is our newest- you guys get the gist by now. How short can these games get?

Hopeless for black at move 184. White seems to be up by 16 - 18 points. https://online-go.com/demo/view/450285

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc In game 2, black played at a instead of R14. $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . a . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . O X X X . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . O O X O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Posted: **Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:22 pm**

xela wrote:Here are a few interesting moments from game 1:

I've added more KataGo variations to all of your suggested Leela Zero variations for KataGo + AlphaGo Teach games 1 and 2.

.sgf file with comments for game 1:

Posted: **Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:11 pm**

Game 2 in particular is now chock-full of endgame sequences that can only be described as elaborate.

.sgf file with comments:

In other news, KataGo (NZ rules, 7 komi) self-play game 7, which is currently under way, will introduce 3-4 points into the fuseki.

EDIT: Added .sgf embeds for all KataGo NZ self-play games in this thread.

Posted: **Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:26 am**

KataGo (NZ rules, 7 komi) self-play game 7 - black wins by 26 points or so: https://online-go.com/review/452290

This brings our current tally to 2 black wins, 1 tie and 4 white wins.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Game 7 and seventeen other games continue at D17. Five games continue at a instead. At least ten games will continue at b. $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . b . . a . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Posted: **Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:38 pm**

KataGo (NZ rules, 7 komi) self-play game 8 turned into an early center fight. Black won by 8 or so: https://online-go.com/demo/view/454459

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Game 7 continued at a instead of J17. $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . B . O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X X a . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X O O O . . . . . . . . . , . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:29 am**

Can you say messy and complicated? If you can, that means you're equipped to describe game 9 (NZ rules, 7 komi).

Half of the board turns into a giant semeai, and white wins by 76 points or so. https://online-go.com/review/456124

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc In game 1, white played at a instead of D10. Three games will continue at b. Eight games will continue at c. $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . b . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . a . . . . . . . . . . . . . c . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:34 pm**

Game 10 (NZ rules, 7 komi) was the first close game since the tie in game 3, white by 2 points it looks like. Peaceful game with huge territories on either side. Quite pleasing-looking to this 11k human

https://online-go.com/demo/view/456362

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc Game 73 continues at a instead of F11. $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . a X X W . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Posted: **Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:54 pm**

Game 11 (NZ rules, 7 komi) is back to messy and complicated. Very alien-looking to me. Black by 10 points or so. https://online-go.com/review/457391

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Check out the symmetry in the lower left! $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X O X . . . . . X . O . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . X X O . O . X . . . | $$ | . O . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . O X O . . . . . X X X . . . | $$ | . . B . O X O O . . . . O O X O X . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:54 pm**

Game 12 (NZ rules, 7 komi) is probably my favourite game in this thread so far. The fuseki looks like drunk humans playing, and after that it's just one breathtaking magic trick after another - to end in only our second tie so far. Beautiful game. https://online-go.com/review/458154

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Fourteen other games will also continue at P4. Games 7, 8 and 23 continue at a instead. $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . a . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:16 pm**

Game 13 (NZ rules, 7 komi) ends up with huge territories on both sides, yet very close (looks like white by 2 points). https://online-go.com/review/459574

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Games 12, 14 and 17 continue at a instead of Q5. $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . a . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . X . . . X . O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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