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Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:38 am
by Marcus
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[go]$$Bcm151 :b1: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O 1 O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . . . O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:04 am
by iseijin
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[go]$$Bcm151 :b1: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . . . O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . 2 . . . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:54 pm
by Marcus
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[go]$$Bcm151 :b1: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . . . O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . 2 . . . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X 3 . X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:04 pm
by EdLee
Marcus's Hide tag is empty as of now, 5 minutes after Post 183.
Maybe he'll insert the same continuation:
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[go]$$W
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . 5 . . O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . 3 . . . . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O 2 4 . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X 1 X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:11 pm
by iseijin
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[go]$$Bcm151 :b1: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . . . O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X 4 X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . 4 . . O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . 2 . . . . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O 1 3 . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:44 am
by Marcus
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[go]$$Bcm151 :b1: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . . . O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X 5 X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'll be gone for 2 days on vacation.

Hrm ... cutting is tempting, but my stones on line 9 are in trouble. Have to just fall back for now. Painful, but I can't lose these stones (and about 20 points with them, if I count correctly).

No diagrams, sorry, not at home.

Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:57 am
by iseijin
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[go]$$Bcm151 :b1: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . . . O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . 6 O . . . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X X X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:54 pm
by Marcus
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[go]$$Bcm151 :b1: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . . . O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . 7 O O . . . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X X X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Back.

Hm. Will need to see if anything clever is hiding in this area, ready to pounce on me ... will take time to read it.

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:01 pm
by EdLee
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[go]$$Bm151
$$ ----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . . . O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . 7 O O . . . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X X X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O O X O O . . . . a . . O X . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . b . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
W has (a) sente, then (b) peep — biggest yose ?

Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:54 am
by iseijin
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[go]$$Bcm151 :b1: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . . . O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . 8 . . . . . . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X X X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:05 am
by skydyr
iseijin wrote:
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[go]$$Bcm151 :b1: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . . . O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . 8 . . . . . . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X X X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O O X O O . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I'm not sure what white is aiming at here. This seems passive?

Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:58 am
by Marcus
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm151 :b1: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . . . O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . X X X X X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O O X O O . . . 9 . . . O X . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I see no reason to respond to that. Connect up here, where I'm weakest. If he's aiming at the C10 group, there's an extra liberty at E9 that keeps the group safe (so, no cut at B9 either).

Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 12:01 pm
by iseijin
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm151 :b2: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . . . O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O 0 X X X X X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think he needs to answer and connect his stone, else:

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . . . O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X 1 . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:35 am
by Marcus
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[go]$$Bcm161 :b2: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . . . O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . O . 1 . . . . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Reduce here so as to give the minimum of points.

Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 12:20 pm
by iseijin
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[go]$$Bcm161 :b2: :w100:
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$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . |
$$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . |
$$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . |
$$ | X X . . . . . O . O . . O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . O . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O 2 . . O . O . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . |
$$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X |
$$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O |
$$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]