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Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:40 pm
by Kirby
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm121 Captured Stones\nW: 2, B: 5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O . . . . . . . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . X . X O X . X . , . X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . O X X X O X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O . . O O O O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . X O O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O X X . O O X X O . O . . |
$$ | . O O O O X X . X . . . 8 O . O X X . |
$$ | . . X , O X . X X , . O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O X O . . O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Well, I cannot attack the marked stones, like I wanted to:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm121 Captured Stones\nW: 2, B: 5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O . . . . . . . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . X . X O X . X . , . X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O . 7 . W X X X O X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . W . . O O O O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . W X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . X O O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O X X . O O X X O . O . . |
$$ | . O O O O X X . X . . . . O . O X X . |
$$ | . . X , O X . X X , . O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O X O . . O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


That had been the point in playing the marked stones below:
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[go]$$Wcm121 Captured Stones\nW: 2, B: 5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O . . . . . . . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . X . X O X . X . , . X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O . 7 . O X X X O X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O . . O O O O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . B . . . . . X . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O B . . . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . X O O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O X X . O O X X O . O . . |
$$ | . O O O O X X . X . . . . O . O X X . |
$$ | . . X , O X . X X , . O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O X O . . O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:48 pm
by Kirby
Just as an FYI to anybody that's still watching this game... Here was my fantasy:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm1 Captured Stones\nW: 2, B: 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . B O 5 . . . . . . . . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . B O X 6 X . X . , . X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . 1 X O . . . O X X X O X . X . O . . |
$$ | . 3 2 O . . . O . . O O O O O O . . . |
$$ | . . 4 . . . . O X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . C O . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . X O O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O X X . O O X X O . O . . |
$$ | . O O O O X X . X . . . . O . O X X . |
$$ | . . X , O X . X X , . O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O X O . . O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The marked stones, above, could be captured, but the cut at the marked intersection, above, would have been something I could look forward to (hence, the point of E11).

I wasn't afraid if he played this way:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm1 Captured Stones\nW: 2, B: 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . X O X X X . X . , . X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . 2 X O . . . O X X X O X . X . O . . |
$$ | . 4 1 O . . . O . . O O O O O O . . . |
$$ | . 5 6 . . . . O X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . B . . . . . X . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O X . . . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . X O O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O X X . O O X X O . O . . |
$$ | . O O O O X X . X . . . . O . O X X . |
$$ | . . X , O X . X X , . O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O X O . . O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The marked stone, above, was in a nice place to help my cut here.

But it's moot, I guess, because I didn't think that he would sacrifice his stones.

I respect him very much.

Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:18 pm
by Magicwand
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm121 Captured Stones\nW: 2, B: 5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O . . . . . . . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . X . X O X . X . , . X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . O X X X O X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O . . O O O O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . 9 . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . X O O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O X X . O O X X O . O . . |
$$ | . O O O O X X . X . . . X O . O X X . |
$$ | . . X , O X . X X , . O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O X O . . O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:55 am
by Kirby
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm121 Captured Stones\nW: 2, B: 5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O . . . . . . . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . X . X O X . X . , . X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . O X X X O X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O . . O O O O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X 0 O . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . X O O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O X X . O O X X O . O . . |
$$ | . O O O O X X . X . . . X O . O X X . |
$$ | . . X , O X . X X , . O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O X O . . O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think the game is about over.

Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:06 am
by Magicwand
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm131 Captured Stones\nW: 2, B: 5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O . . . . . . . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . X . X O X . X . , . X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . O X X X O X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O . . O O O O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X X O 1 O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . X O O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O X X . O O X X O . O . . |
$$ | . O O O O X X . X . . . X O . O X X . |
$$ | . . X , O X . X X , . O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O X O . . O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:16 am
by Kirby
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm131 Captured Stones\nW: 2, B: 5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O . . . . . . . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . X . X O X . X . , . X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . O X X X O X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O . . O O O O O O . . 2 |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X X O O O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . X O O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O X X . O O X X O . O . . |
$$ | . O O O O X X . X . . . X O . O X X . |
$$ | . . X , O X . X X , . O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O X O . . O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


No time to protect that cut, I guess...

Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:24 am
by Kirby
By the way, if he cut, I thought he might still be OK, but I wasn't sure:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm131 Captured Stones\nW: 2, B: 5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O . . . . . . . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . X . X O X . X . , . X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . O X X X O X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O . . O O O O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . 3 . 4 X . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X X O 2 O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O . X O 1 X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . X O O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O X X . O O X X O . O . . |
$$ | . O O O O X X . X . . . X O . O X X . |
$$ | . . X , O X . X X , . O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O X O . . O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:27 am
by Kirby
In retrospect, I am thinking that C7 was a big mistake... I should have read out with certainty that it could or could not kill the corner if he ignored. :blackeye:

Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:11 am
by Magicwand
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm131 Captured Stones\nW: 2, B: 5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O . . . . . . . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . X . X O X . X . , . X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . O X X X O X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . O . . O O O O O O . 3 X |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X X O O O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . X O O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O X X . O O X X O . O . . |
$$ | . O O O O X X . X . . . X O . O X X . |
$$ | . . X , O X . X X , . O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O X O . . O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:30 am
by Kirby
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm131 Captured Stones\nW: 2, B: 5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O . . . . . . . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . X . X O X . X . , . X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . O X X X O X . X . O . 4 |
$$ | . . O O . . . O . . O O O O O O . O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X X O O O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . X O O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O X X . O O X X O . O . . |
$$ | . O O O O X X . X . . . X O . O X X . |
$$ | . . X , O X . X X , . O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O X O . . O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:36 am
by Magicwand
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm131 Captured Stones\nW: 2, B: 5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O . . . . . . . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . X . X O X . X . , . X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . O X X X O X . X . O . X |
$$ | . . O O . . . O . . O O O O O O . O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . . . 5 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X X O O O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . X O O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O X X . O O X X O . O . . |
$$ | . O O O O X X . X . . . X O . O X X . |
$$ | . . X , O X . X X , . O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O X O . . O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:09 am
by Kirby
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm131 Captured Stones\nW: 2, B: 5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O . . . . . . . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . X . X O X . X . , . X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . O X X X O X . X . O . X |
$$ | . . O O . . . O . . O O O O O O . O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . . . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X X O O O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . X O O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O X X . O O X X O . O 6 . |
$$ | . O O O O X X . X . . . X O . O X X . |
$$ | . . X , O X . X X , . O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O X O . . O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:12 am
by Kirby
It's hard to say what's biggest. This was sente for white:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm131 Captured Stones\nW: 2, B: 5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O . . . . . . . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . X . X O X . X . , . X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . O X X X O X . X . O . X |
$$ | . . O O . . . O . . O O O O O O . O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . . . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X X O O O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . X O O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . X O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O O X X . O O X X O . O W . |
$$ | . O O O O X X . X . . . X O . O X X . |
$$ | . . X , O X . X X , . O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X O . . . . O . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O X O . . O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


so there's the risk that he'd play there first.

Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:20 am
by Horibe
If this was the plan, I think T15 should have been at T16.

But I would finish the monkey jump - white is ahead, he is not going to leave the atari.

And if he played as Kirby feared, then I take the ko at p5

Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby - Running Low On Titles

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:33 am
by Magicwand
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