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Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 10:53 pm
by Kirby
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[go]$$Bcm109 Move 109 - Prisoners: B=5, W=6
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I'm in trouble, I think...

Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 10:55 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Bcm110 Move 110 - Prisoners: B=5, W=6
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Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 10:57 pm
by Kirby
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[go]$$Bcm111 Move 111 - Prisoners: B=5, W=7
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Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 10:59 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Wcm112 Move 112 - Prisoners: B=5, W=7
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Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 11:04 pm
by Kirby
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[go]$$Bcm115 Move 115 - Prisoners: B=6, W=7
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Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 11:05 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Bcm116 Move 116 - Prisoners: B=5, W=7
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Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 11:06 pm
by Kirby
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[go]$$Bcm117 Move 117 - Prisoners: B=6, W=7
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Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 11:08 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Bcm118 Move 118 - Prisoners: B=6, W=7
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Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 11:09 pm
by Kirby
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[go]$$Bcm119 Move 119 - Prisoners: B=6, W=8
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Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 11:12 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Wcm120 Move 120 - Prisoners: B=6, W=8
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Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 11:14 pm
by Kirby
Even if I ignore your future threats, and even if you answer my two threats here, I have no other threats. I have lost.

Thank you very much for playing. I hope that it was not too boring for you. I was a bit silly with the bottom left corner, but I thought that it was my only chance. I hope that you understand.

Edit: You moved already, but the result is the same. Thank you for playing.

Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 11:18 pm
by Magicwand
Kirby wrote:Even if I ignore your future threats, and even if you answer my two threats here, I have no other threats. I have lost.

Thank you very much for playing. I hope that it was not too boring for you. I was a bit silly with the bottom left corner, but I thought that it was my only chance. I hope that you understand.

Edit: You moved already, but the result is the same. Thank you for playing.


it was very entertaining game. thank you.
i hope you read whatever few comment i left and hopefully it help you see how i think.

if you wish to play me again PM me anytime. maybe one more handycap stone should give you a better chance.

thank you again.

Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 11:24 pm
by Kirby
The comments are a bit amusing so far. I'll try to respond to some of the comments left by the observers in a little bit.

Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 11:46 pm
by Kirby
daniel_the_smith wrote:
Did Kirby play 29, 31 & 33 without having coffee or something? He was doing so well...

Does anyone else think like Magicwand? I may exhibit some of the same sorts of behaviors accidentally, but I don't consciously think like he seems to.


Yeah, that was an especially low point in the game. I thought the top group was too weak a little too late. I didn't read ahead well enough.


Bill Spight wrote:
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[go]$$Bcm35
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I was disappointed that Black did not continue this way. For me this is a no-brainer.

Yes, Black has three weak groups and White has two. Yes, this is the kind of position White likes. But Black's thickness is made for fighting, so fight already!

Besides, this is just the position Black aimed for two moves ago. Why the change in plans? It is one thing to stay flexible and cut your losses if conditions change, but this is just running scared. To quote chess author E. A. Znosko-Borovski, "Order, counter-order, disorder!" Not a recipe for success. :(

If your play is consistent, you may have erred. If it is inconsistent, you surely have erred.


I guess that I can understand this. I should have split the groups as you said.


Violence wrote:
Ugh... watching this game frustrates me to no end.

I hate Magicwand's style. I hate his attitude towards players, I hate the reasoning he gives for most of his moves, and how he happens to get away with so much in this game because I feel Kirby is getting intimidated by the bully.

Mind you, I don't hate Magicwand, it's simply what he represents, the club player who plays on instinct and reading, but always has inconsistent thinking. There was a time when I tried to get stronger by playing such players, but I would never grow conceptually. I would never have games where the outcome was decided because my opening and endgame skill was higher(though often true), it was only because I outfought in the middlegame, because these kinds of players will overplay, overplay, and overplay, until the game is simply one huge fight.

And then they review. They always assert that their moves were rooted firmly in their intuition, so whether or not they were correct or not is usually irrelevant to them, because they're so reliant on intuition that they are usually willing to accept their mistakes and lack of understanding of Go theory because they are satisfied with the way they currently play.

Playing against people like that only seems to strengthen your reading and fighting shape. You never really learn new tricks, sharpen your endgame, or develop opening prowess, the game is essentially all middlegame.

And it pains me so much because I've met Mr. Kirby. And I've seen Mr. Kirby play. He's an honest player who looks straight at the board and tries to rationally come up with each move. He's been using this method to get stronger for quite some time, and it always pains me to see a rational, thinking type player, who establishes an early lead and dominating position get beaten by a stronger player who leaves many openings and chances for punishment, but still wins in the end.

Man... if Kirby doesn't win this game, I might have to play a game with Magicwand over this summer.


I'm sorry that I didn't win the game, Violence. Thanks for your support. Though I made some stupid mistakes, I feel good about this game (even after reading the comments :-p) because I wanted to play an educational game against a stronger player, and I think that I achieved that to some degree.


HKA wrote:
I am a big fan of Eric's but I have to disagree with much of the above. Magicwand is the Simon Cowell of Malkovich - yes his opinions are expressed in often annoying ways - but he is the reason we watch. And he generously takes on all comers, and while his comments are terse, they do Malkovichingly show what he is thinking. I certainly feel like I am in his head - and such a feeling should be, on occaision, disturbing. Furthermore, he is pretty good natured when confronted with reasonable and considered criticsm.

Eric is probably stronger than I am by now, but I do not see his play as that poor - he does tend to be overly tactical in exploiting what he sees as a mistake. And his explanations have been less than convincing at times - but he has always been entertaining. And as frustrating as being beaten by this sort of player can be - we do need to learn to do it.

We all are rooting against him, or most of us I suspect, but that has made his games widely followed and full of interest. I would hate the current wave of criticism towards him to lead to him backing off - for me, he is the most interesting thing here right now.


I agree. I very much appreciate Magicwand's presence here on the forums.


Joaz Banbeck wrote:
Kirby wrote:
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[go]$$Bcm49 Move 49 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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This seems premature. Were I black, I would have played this first:

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[go]$$Bcm49 Move 49 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


White can't let black have C13, and has to play something like C14 himself. But the coming fight is going to be in the center, and black's move will be worth more than white's.


I actually had this exact move in mind, Joaz. I decided against it in the game, because I wasn't totally sure if my corner invasion would work (it didn't), so I didn't want to give away territory for free before-hand. I didn't know how it would turn out.

Araban wrote:
The first thing that came to my head when I read Violence's comment:
Kirby
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Magicwand
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This cracks me up! I think I've found a new avatar:)

topazg wrote:
I'd much prefer this, so "a" isn't so awkward to handle:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm57 Move 57 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . O O X . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . B . X a . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I opted against this, because it seemed to give white more eyespace. I thought I had to do something against the corner for sure to win. In the game, it didn't work out anyway, though, so of course the sequence you gave is better.


topazg wrote:
There is no ko fight here:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm77 Move 77-78 - There is no ko.
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O W . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X . X . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | O 2 O O O O X . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | 1 O . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | a X O O . b . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | X X X O O X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | O O X X O X . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I was talking about the ko at "a" (I edited your diagram), but at least some sequences starting with "b" seem to lead to a double ko for white, so I was flawed in my reasoning anyway.

Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 2:39 am
by SpongeBob
Lol, great that you have been provided with some new avatars :mrgreen: