$$Bcm161 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . . . O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . . . O . X . 3 . . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O . . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm161 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . . . O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . . . O . X . 3 . . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O . . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Reduce more of his points in the center. If he wedges, I have some options to reduce. Here's one possible line (it's a fun one, in my opinion):
$$Bcm163 ;;; at $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . . . O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . . . O . X 2 1 3 . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O 4 5 O 7 O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O B 6 8 9 . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm163 ;;; at $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . . . O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . . . O . X 2 1 3 . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O 4 5 O 7 O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O B 6 8 9 . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:25 pm
by iseijin
$$Bcm161 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . . . O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . . . O . X . X 4 . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O . . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm161 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . . . O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . . . O . X . X 4 . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O . . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:14 pm
by Marcus
$$Bcm161 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . . . O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . . . O . X . X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O 5 . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm161 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . . . O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . . . O . X . X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O 5 . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
He reduced me, I reduced him ... I should be OK, though ...
Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:14 pm
by iseijin
$$Bcm161 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . . . O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . . 6 O . X . X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm161 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . . . O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . . 6 O . X . X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:31 am
by Marcus
$$Bcm161 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . . . O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . 7 O O . X . X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm161 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . . . O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . 7 O O . X . X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
The cut at B9 doesn't work thanks tot he liberty at E9. He might try some shenanigans with A6, ut I think I'm still ok there, too.
Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:06 am
by iseijin
$$Bcm161 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . . 8 O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . X O O . X . X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm161 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . . 8 O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . X O O . X . X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I'm doing this so he cannot:
$$Bcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . . 1 O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . X O O . X . X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . . 1 O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . X O O . X . X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Which might give him some points. He needs to answer, else I'll capture some stones:
$$Wcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . . O O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . X O O . X . X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X 1 . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . . O O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . X O O . X . X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X 1 . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:18 am
by Marcus
$$Bcm161 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . . O O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . X O O . X 9 X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm161 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . . O O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . X O O . X 9 X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Nothing clever this time. Must answer the peep.
Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:23 pm
by iseijin
$$Bcm161 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . 0 O O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm161 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . 0 O O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X . . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Going this side instead of at the cut, as this way I might destroy a point or so and he has to connect, so it is sente.
Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:12 pm
by Marcus
$$Bcm171 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X 1 . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm171 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X 1 . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
What ugly shape I have here. Oh well. Can't lose these (heavy?) stones now ...
EDIT:
MY play at G11 seems to have been a mistake. I should have made the solid connection at G12. The G10 stone is an unimportant stone now, so saving it wasn't really the best plan. Playing G11 gave him some good forcing moves against my group, making me heavy.
Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:22 pm
by iseijin
$$Bcm171 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . 2 O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm171 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . 2 O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:33 am
by Marcus
$$Bcm171 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . 3 O O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm171 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O . . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . 3 O O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Hmmm ... think I should do another count soon.
Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:12 am
by iseijin
$$Bcm171 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O 4 . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . X O O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm171 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O 4 . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . X O O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X . . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:16 am
by Marcus
$$Bcm171 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O O . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . X O O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X 5 . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm171 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O O . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . X O O . O O X X X X X . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X 5 . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
A quick count puts me up by about 10 points, I think.
I'm not very good at calculating endgame values. My current move is only 1 point in sente but sets up another single point sente move at E9, but I probably won't play E9 immediately if I can find a bigger play. My opponent would have to take gote to play E9 (for a single point), so he likely won't play it immediately either.
There are a few places left to play after this:
$$Bcm171 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . e . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . f . . . O X O . . X X X O d | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O O . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . X O O . O O X X X X X . . X . b . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X 5 . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . c O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . a . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm171 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . e . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . f . . . O X O . . X X X O d | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O O . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . X O O . O O X X X X X . . X . b . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X 5 . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . c O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . a . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I have no idea where to play for ... c and f feel more urgent than a, b, d or e.
a - While I don't need to respond to this if White plays it, White gains a chunk if I don't. b - It's sente for White, but not a big gain. I'll probably leave this for white to play. c - Playing this before white can play A5 feels huge to me. Maybe it's not as big as it feels? d - It's gote for both of us here. e - Again gote, but I have to be careful of the O16 cut. I don't think there's anything to worry about, but I'll keep an eye there. f - I find this area hard to evaluate for endgame. Feels big enough.
I'll have to decide soon where I want to go.
Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:20 pm
by iseijin
$$Bcm171 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O O . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . X O O . O O X X X X X . . X . 6 . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X X . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm171 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O O . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . X O O . O O X X X X X . . X . 6 . . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X X . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: #238: iseijin vs Marcus
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:54 am
by Marcus
$$Bcm171 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O O . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . X O O . O O X X X X X . . X . O 7 . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X X . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm171 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O O X X . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . O O . . O X X . . . X . X O O O O . | $$ | O . O O . . . . . O X O . . X X X O . | $$ | O O X . . . X . . X X . O O . . . X . | $$ | O X X . X . . . . . . . O X O O X . . | $$ | X X . . . O O O . O . . O . O X X . . | $$ | . X O O . X X X O . O . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . X O O O X . O . O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X X O X X . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . X O O . O O X X X X X . . X . O 7 . | $$ | . X O . O O . O O . . . X . . . O X . | $$ | . X X . X O O X O O O O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O O O X O X X X O X X . X . O X . | $$ | X O O X X X X O O . O X . . . . O X X | $$ | . X X , . . . X O O . X . . . , . O O | $$ | . . . . X O O X X O O X . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . X X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
This was expected, of course. 1-point in sente that he could have taken any time. I expect him to go back to answer now.