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#245 Kirby vs. paK0

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Re: #245 Kirby vs. paK0

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:39 am
by paK0
Seems like I kept sente, which is great.

I'll do some reading, but if I don't find anything too menacing, the next step is probably to poke his group on the right side.

S8 looks promising, but I gotta see weather or not that actually threatens a kill.

Re: #245 Kirby vs. paK0

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:08 am
by paK0
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X B . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O O . O X X . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I don't think anything too threatening can happen in this area.

Unfortunately I did not find a good move on the right.

This move should be fine, it strengthens my weakest group and helps me in an area where he has a lot of potential aji.

Re: #245 Kirby vs. paK0

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:23 am
by Kirby
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X X W . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O O . O X X . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Optimistically, if I control the entire endgame, I still see a 20 point gap - he did well on the bottom, and I believe the top was a great place to play next ( I would have played on top myself if I had gotten sente).

So I can't just aim for endgame. In Korean, this might qualify as a 승부수 - do or die move.

Re: #245 Kirby vs. paK0

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:00 pm
by paK0
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X X O . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . B . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O O . O X X . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Hane seems like the natural move, I did some light reading, but there are too many variations to make an educated guess, so lets just go with my gut feeling.

I did not find a definitive way this ends in disaster, so that makes me feel slightly less worse.

Re: #245 Kirby vs. paK0

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:09 pm
by Kirby
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . W X X O . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O O . O X X . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
No particular reason.

Re: #245 Kirby vs. paK0

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:44 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
paK0 wrote:
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O . B O . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O B . O . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
If black had played here, it is not clear that any white stones on the lower five rows will survive.

Re: #245 Kirby vs. paK0

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 4:07 am
by paK0
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O B . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . O X X O . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O O . O X X . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Sorry again for the delay. It seems like go is at that terrible rank of my hobbies that whenever I need time for something else its one of the first things to be cut :cry:
Did a few reads on the cuts and the hane. This has all kinds of potential to get ugly, but I couldn't find a "clean" reply that neatly takes care of all the aji in the area.

This one seems to end with the least trouble for me, so I'll go with it here.

Re: #245 Kirby vs. paK0

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:50 pm
by Kirby
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O W . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . O X X O . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O O . O X X . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I guess it's time to play a move, again

Re: #245 Kirby vs. paK0

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:12 pm
by paK0
Mh thats weird, I thought I replied already, guess the forum ate my reply.
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O O . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . O X X . B . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O O . O X X . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Ok, I did some more rereading and the simple reply seems to be best.

I think he can connect now, but I don't think he can afford to give me sente here.

Some big moves for me:
- R11 and S9 look like they kill the group on the right
- G9 threatens to pull out my stones and makes a big dent in his only developable area
- J9 is huge if I can win the ko

Re: #245 Kirby vs. paK0

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:08 pm
by Kirby
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O O . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . O X X . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X W . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O O . O X X . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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