Life In 19x19

spook wrote: Afaik, by default KataGo just takes the move with the highest LCB, as long as it has more than 10 playouts. Although, I wouldn't be surprised if this was configurable to some degree. Then again, even if there is, tweaking KataGo, wouldn't be a solution, because Leela Zero has the same issues.

Actually, both KataGo and Leela Zero require that the highest LCB move also has enough playouts compared to other moves, not just 10, otherwise LCB would be a great harm on the strength instead of a benefit. It's a bad idea to pick a barely-searched move when the barely-searched move might only falsely seem good due to not having been read out enough to find the correct tactics yet. For KataGo, it's currently required by default that the LCB move has at least 15% of the playouts that the top playouts move has.

But zbaduk probably should not hardcode any such rule on its own. The final word on the preference ordering of moves should be given by the "order" field returned by the analysis. Zbaduk should simply just be sorting by this "order" field, whose purpose is specifically to let the bot give its preference ordering according to whatever combination of value/playouts/policy or whatever internal metrics it deems best. I'd be surprised if the "order" field were ranking the 80-playout move at the top, unless KataGo has also been somehow explicitly configured to also override the 15% threshold as well, so this would fix all the issues like the one you just observed that arise from trying your own custom sorting logic.

Hi,

1. I've noticed an issue when viewing on my iPad. All the ai recommended moves are the same black colour with the numbers black on top so it's very hard to see. Not sure if this is just me as I'm using an old iPad.

2. Is there a way to see the current move's points effect rather than it's percentage increase or decrease when using katago? The chart lists the point difference of the recommended moves but not the effect of the move that was just played.

3. Is there a way to share my current analysis with someone else so we can view together online?

Thanks for making this site, it's really helpful!

Still cannot use the 0 komi ^^ Is it possible to change the rules too? Like 0 komi with JPN rules. I review a lot of jubango of Go seigen these days so Zbaduk is super useful

lichigo wrote:Still cannot use the 0 komi ^^

Should be fixed now.
(Also 0 komi with japanese rules works fine now.)

PS: On a totally unrelated note: there was an issue with bot-games sometimes not being saved automatically.
--> also that issue should be fixed now.

Thank you so much. Working perfectly ^^

I just installed a release, which contains small tweaks and improvements.

First of all, as many people asked. There should be a way to select default rules and connection settings.

Marcel Grünauer wrote: - Would it be possible to have connection defaults? For example, I always use KataGo, never Leela Zero, and always Japanese rules. When connecting, I always have to change these settings in the "AI server connections" dialog.
Thank you!

I have added a setting in the UI settings screen:
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Secondly, mostly bug fixes,
and a small performance fix for the statistics table.

The statistics table is now also limited in number of records.

Dark mode and new Kata net when? :,)

Feature suggestion: have some kind of indication about the next played move. Currently I only see the different percentages and often wonder which move I actually played.

A normal move, -90% winrate. Why?

Suddenly Katago is not available on Zbaduk? Is it over a change or an update? Or a problem with my account ?? Does anyone have the same problem?

Servers down? It says "No more instances available. You may want to try a different gpu server."

Newest KataGo net, pretty please and with a cherry on top? <3

Sorry for the silence lately. I know, it's been a while.

First of all, for Chinese and Spanish visitors, we're working on language support for you guys. There's a test version running of our front-end on https://www.zbaduk.com/next which hosts these languages. The database is the same. It's just a bit hidden away for now.

In my own defense. I've changed jobs 2 times in the last 6 months. And because I don't want to slow down the project I decided the following:
1. to hire freelancers when necessary
2. to open-source the front-end.

For those who missed it, ZBaduk will be opening up it's front-end source. Actually, for some time now.
For that reason, 2 fundamental requirements need to be fixed first:

- redesigning some of the APIs.
- facebook and google login.

Actually, I'm not developing that myself. I brought in some help of some hired freelancers who know more about security than I do. Because 1 hired freelancer didn't turn out to be enough, I hired a 2nd one in mean time, who started working on it today.

You may have seen ZBaduk sponsor some tournaments. There have been many recently. (new-york, canada, latin-america, ... honestly, I can't keep up) And for that reason, I also hired somebody to design a banner.
@Maharani, I've sent you an e-mail about the KataGo network.
I'm willing to make this a priority, if you help me to pick the right network.
There seem to be so many these days.

Kind regards

PS: there's actually an issue with our loadbalancer right now.
I'm on it. You can expect a fix ASAP.

Update: done.
It turns out that the webost for the leela zero networks is down right now.
ZBaduk always tries to download the latest version from that website.
So, I fixed it now by installing a mirror for that network file (a failover).
Everything's back online now.