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Re: World Mind Sport Games 2012
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 11:24 am
by Javaness2
I thought that the IGF had delegated the running of the event to the EGF.
mumps wrote:There's a meeting of the IGF next week at which the EGF are submitting some proposals, so we can expect some announcements soon after that.
Jon
Re: World Mind Sport Games 2012
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 6:01 am
by quantumf
Any news yet whatsoever?
Re: World Mind Sport Games 2012
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 7:15 am
by Javaness2
No
Re: World Mind Sport Games 2012
Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 10:11 am
by Javaness2
SURPRISE !!!1!
the IGF website has some details
Re: World Mind Sport Games 2012
Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 11:33 am
by quantumf
Does it? Where?
I could find bridge info at the IMSA site, for instance:
http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille. ... #Programme
But nothing for go
Re: World Mind Sport Games 2012
Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 1:23 pm
by Javaness2
Re: World Mind Sport Games 2012
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:11 am
by Hsiang
The WMSG-II announcement is now available at the IGF website <http://intergofed.org/index.php>, including tournament details, schedule, and a hotel list.
Re: World Mind Sport Games 2012
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:51 am
by quantumf
The rules as outlined in the attached documents indicate that players should be nominated by the Go federation to which they belong. There is no stated rule about citizenship or residency. Is there a rule that players must be either a citizen and/or a resident in the country that nominates them? Or is that up to the nominating country to decide?
Edit: the EGF have confirmed that citizenship is required.
Re: World Mind Sport Games 2012
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:23 pm
by Hsiang
quantumf wrote:The EGF have confirmed that citizenship is required.
Right. WMSG is modeled after the Olympics. While WMSG does not yet have its own charter, the Olympic Charter requires that "an athlete be a national of the country they compete for".
Re: World Mind Sport Games 2012
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:32 pm
by RobertJasiek
Hsiang wrote:WMSG is modeled after the Olympics.
If the earlier stated information is right, McMahon (not all participants have the same right to win), no professionals (some of the strongest players are prohibited) and extra youth tournament (not all participants in the overall event have the same right to win the same) contradict that. The first WMSG was pretty close to the Olympics - the second is not at all.
Re: World Mind Sport Games 2012
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:34 am
by gogameguru
RobertJasiek wrote:Hsiang wrote:WMSG is modeled after the Olympics.
If the earlier stated information is right, McMahon (not all participants have the same right to win), no professionals (some of the strongest players are prohibited) and extra youth tournament (not all participants in the overall event have the same right to win the same) contradict that. The first WMSG was pretty close to the Olympics - the second is not at all.
That's mainly because of a lack of funding Robert, but they're doing their best to find resources and go ahead with it anyway. It's the same old story, and you must know that by now...
Re: World Mind Sport Games 2012
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:23 am
by RobertJasiek
gogameguru wrote:That's mainly because of a lack of funding
Not at all! Swiss or KO (as examples of different tournament systems) instead of McMahon costs nothing, allowing professionals to enter costs nothing (for the event organisation) and letting young and adult players play in one tournament costs nothing!
Re: World Mind Sport Games 2012
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:32 am
by gogameguru
I was under the impression that professionals just weren't interested in attending, not that they were blocked from entering.
Perhaps you've read otherwise?
Re: World Mind Sport Games 2012
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:12 am
by RobertJasiek
So far, I have believed Javaness2:
http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewto ... 06#p101174
Do you have the URLs for the pages or documents that specify the details?
Re: World Mind Sport Games 2012
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:39 am
by HermanHiddema
RobertJasiek wrote:Hsiang wrote:WMSG is modeled after the Olympics.
If the earlier stated information is right, McMahon (not all participants have the same right to win), no professionals (some of the strongest players are prohibited) and extra youth tournament (not all participants in the overall event have the same right to win the same) contradict that. The first WMSG was pretty close to the Olympics - the second is not at all.
Actually, the Olympics traditionally did not allow professional athletes to compete, and some restrictions on professional participation still exists for some sports. Also, there has been a recent addition of Youth Olympic Games in addition to the regular Olympic games.