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Re: Batoo-kovitch #4: Dusk Eagle vs illluck

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:19 pm
by Dusk Eagle
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:30, W:22
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . m W . . . . m . . |
$$ | . . W . . . . B B W . |
$$ | . . . . . B . . W B . |
$$ | p . . . . B . . . W p |
$$ | . . W . . B . . . . . |
$$ | . . B O . . . . W . . |
$$ | . . m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]
Surely your hidden move isn't here.

Re: Batoo-kovitch #4: Dusk Eagle vs illluck

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:42 pm
by illluck
Surprise!

Actually, you are right, my hidden move is not there XD
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:30, W:22
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . m W . . . . m X . |
$$ | . . W . . . . B B W . |
$$ | . . . . . B . . W B . |
$$ | p . . . . B . . . W p |
$$ | . . W . . B . . . . . |
$$ | . . B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . . m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]
I suddenly realize I have no way to prevent white from playing at my hidden move if I try to play on the left. I'll leave it for now in case he tries to patch up left in a weird way (probably not going to, though). I expect capture here, then I'll go back and play C7. At that point white will know what my hidden move is, but I don't think I have much choice.

I think I'm pretty close to hopelessly behind - especially since white still has his hidden move, but I'll play on for a bit.

Re: Batoo-kovitch #4: Dusk Eagle vs illluck

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:49 pm
by Dusk Eagle
Sneaky. Well, good thing I played there to make sure.
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:30 (-1 for capture), W:23
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . m W . . . . m B . |
$$ | . . W . . . . B B W . |
$$ | . . . . . B . . W . O |
$$ | p . . . . B . . . W p |
$$ | . . W . . B . . . . . |
$$ | . . B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . . m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]

Re: Batoo-kovitch #4: Dusk Eagle vs illluck

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:34 pm
by illluck
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:31 (-1 for capture), W:23
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . m W . . . . m B . |
$$ | . . W . . . . B B W . |
$$ | . . X . . B . . W . W |
$$ | p . . . . B . . . W p |
$$ | . . W . . B . . . . . |
$$ | . . B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . . m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]

Re: Batoo-kovitch #4: Dusk Eagle vs illluck

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:01 pm
by Dusk Eagle
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:31, W:24
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . m W . . . . m B . |
$$ | . . W . . . . B B W . |
$$ | . . B O . B . . W . W |
$$ | p . . . . B . . . W p |
$$ | . . W . . B . . . . . |
$$ | . . B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . . m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]

Re: Batoo-kovitch #4: Dusk Eagle vs illluck

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:52 pm
by illluck
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:32, W:24
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . m W . . . . m B . |
$$ | . . W . . . . B B W . |
$$ | . . B W . B . . W . W |
$$ | p . . . . B . . . W p |
$$ | . X W . . B . . . . . |
$$ | . . B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . . m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]
White will probably discover my hidden move next, but I think after I separate I can get that plus point in sente later and also attack upper left. This means that on board it looks playable. The issue, of course, is that white still has the hidden move XD

Re: Batoo-kovitch #4: Dusk Eagle vs illluck

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:24 am
by Dusk Eagle
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:32, W:25
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . m W . . . . m B . |
$$ | . . W . . . . B B W . |
$$ | . . B W . B . . W . W |
$$ | p . O . . B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W . . B . . . . . |
$$ | . . B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . . m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]

Re: Batoo-kovitch #4: Dusk Eagle vs illluck

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:07 am
by illluck
You found my hidden move.
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:33, W:24
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . m W . . . . m B . |
$$ | . . W . . . . B B W . |
$$ | . . B W . B . . W . W |
$$ | p . B . . B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W . . B . . . . . |
$$ | . . B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . . m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]

Re: Batoo-kovitch #4: Dusk Eagle vs illluck

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:59 pm
by Dusk Eagle
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:33, W:25
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . m W . . . . m B . |
$$ | . . W . . . . B B W . |
$$ | . . B W . B . . W . W |
$$ | p . B . . B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W O . B . . . . . |
$$ | . . B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . . m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]

Re: Batoo-kovitch #4: Dusk Eagle vs illluck

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:13 pm
by illluck
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:34, W:25
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . m W . . . . m B . |
$$ | . . W . . . . B B W . |
$$ | . . B W . B . . W . W |
$$ | p . B X . B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . . B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . . m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]
I have to separate white if I want to get to play around E10 in sente.

Re: Batoo-kovitch #4: Dusk Eagle vs illluck

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:50 am
by Dusk Eagle
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:34, W:26
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . m W . . . . m B . |
$$ | . . W . . . . B B W . |
$$ | . . B W . B . . W . W |
$$ | p . B B . B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . O B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . . m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]
Looks like I'll be forced to take a minus point:
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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . m W . . . . m B . |
$$ | . . W . . . . B B W . |
$$ | . . B W . B . . W . W |
$$ | p 4 B X . B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | 3 1 B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . 2 5 W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]
This also could hurt my top side, but fortunately I still have my hidden move, which should help me live if need be.

Re: Batoo-kovitch #4: Dusk Eagle vs illluck

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:10 am
by illluck
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:41, W:26
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . m W . . . . m B . |
$$ | . . W . . . . B B W . |
$$ | . . B W . B . . W . W |
$$ | X . B B . B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . W B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . . m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]
I considered playing around top left first, but this seems so big (especially because I can later force white to play on the minus point).

Re: Batoo-kovitch #4: Dusk Eagle vs illluck

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:15 pm
by Dusk Eagle
Shouldn't your score be 40? (34 base +5 for the plus zone and +1 for the stone on the board)
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:40, W:27
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . m W . . . . m B . |
$$ | . . W . . . . B B W . |
$$ | . . B W . B . . W . W |
$$ | B . B B . B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . W B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . O m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]
That move is a bit surprising to me. Now, he can peep as below and eventually force me to fill the negative space, but my descent at :w2: may at least be profitable in exchange.
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:41, W:26
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . m W . . . . m B . |
$$ | . . W . . . . B B W . |
$$ | . . B W . B . . W . W |
$$ | B . B B . B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . W B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . W 4 W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . 3 1 2 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]

Re: Batoo-kovitch #4: Dusk Eagle vs illluck

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:51 pm
by illluck
Yes :oops: Math is too hard XD
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:41, W:27
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . m W . . . . m B . |
$$ | . . W . . . . B B W . |
$$ | . . B W . B . . W . W |
$$ | B . B B . B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . W B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . W m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]
Game looking less hopeless, but I think I still need to either surround top right comfortably + get a plus point so that the remaining two becomes miai-ish or force a play on at least one of the minus points on the left side to stand a chance.

Re: Batoo-kovitch #4: Dusk Eagle vs illluck

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:37 am
by Dusk Eagle
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[go]$$Bcm1 Score - B:41, W:28
$$ +-----------------------+
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O B . . . . . . |
$$ | . . m W . . . . m B . |
$$ | . . W . . . . B B W . |
$$ | . . B W . B . . W . W |
$$ | B . B B . B . . . W p |
$$ | . B W W . B . . . . . |
$$ | . W B W . . . . W . . |
$$ | . W m W . B . W m . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . p . . . . . |
$$ +-----------------------+[/go]
I feel slightly in trouble, but I think I'll be okay.