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oren wrote:

mogosoup wrote: I hate their business model. NAND is so cheap they should just give us 16gb for $500 and 128gb for $600

Buy a tablet that lets you put in MicroSD. They're not hard to find.

But I like apple applications. I'm Torn

mogosoup wrote:

oren wrote:

mogosoup wrote: I hate their business model. NAND is so cheap they should just give us 16gb for $500 and 128gb for $600

Buy a tablet that lets you put in MicroSD. They're not hard to find.

But I like apple applications. I'm Torn

Well for go study the iPad has no competition, the problem is the price premium and whether you're willing to stump up the extra cash.

That said, an iPad is in no way a necessary component of a training system. So it's a luxury at best, a frivolous one at worst.

I've got an android tab. I like it a lot and play go a bit on IGS with it. Although I prefer the android system and tend to dislike Apple as a company, I have to admit that for Go the Ipad has many more quality apps.

Boidhre wrote: Well for go study the iPad has no competition

I think it has a lot of competition.

oren wrote:

Boidhre wrote: Well for go study the iPad has no competition

I think it has a lot of competition.

Perhaps he meant, "no competition worth comparing."

oren wrote:

Boidhre wrote: Well for go study the iPad has no competition

I think it has a lot of competition.

Note I said studying, not playing go.

I ended up getting the new iPad. Now I just wish there was kgs

Boidhre wrote:
Note I said studying, not playing go.

For studying, I would still pick Android. To each their own.

oren wrote:

Boidhre wrote:
Note I said studying, not playing go.

For studying, I would still pick Android. To each their own.

What do you think the advantages of android over iPad are?

@mogosoup
Check KGS topics here on L19. I wrote about a hundred times about how to play on KGS with iPad . Look for AlwaysOnPC for iPad on the Appstore. It's not a cheap solution, but if you need it's there and it works. But before you spend $20 take a look at my video posted here on forum how this app looks and works. And remember that you have always free options for playing go on iPad like IGS (Panda-Tetsuki), Tygem, WBaduk, even www servers like goshrine or kaya.gs. Good luck

[update]
Here is a link to topic about KGS on iPad and AlwaysOnPc app - with my video:
http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewto ... =18&t=5805

mogosoup wrote: What do you think the advantages of android over iPad are?

Missed this earlier. I just find my Android tablet to be more user friendly. The ability to pop it in, copy and sort files, and interact with just seem more intuitive to me. I don't feel like I'm lacking anything other than Nihon Kiin magazines that I would like to check out.

Also for the $300 difference, you can get a lot of study material.

oren wrote:

mogosoup wrote: What do you think the advantages of android over iPad are?

Missed this earlier. I just find my Android tablet to be more user friendly. The ability to pop it in, copy and sort files, and interact with just seem more intuitive to me. I don't feel like I'm lacking anything other than Nihon Kiin magazines that I would like to check out.

Also for the $300 difference, you can get a lot of study material.

Sure, $300 it's a huge difference, but belive me - SmartGo books, Tygem, Wbaduk, PandaTetsuki, SmartGo Kifu, XGoo HD, EasyGo...Well there are a lot more good go apps on iOS than on Android. Sure it can be only a matter of time, but hey, how long we need to wait? Two years ago there was nothing acceptable for Android. And now it is still not any better in Apps area. Panda-Tetsuki showed up... after three years. For me, it is a consumer's nightmare to get cheap hardware with no good software.

lobotommy wrote: Sure, $300 it's a huge difference, but belive me - SmartGo books, Tygem, Wbaduk, PandaTetsuki, SmartGo Kifu, XGoo HD, EasyGo...Well there are a lot more good go apps on iOS than on Android. Sure it can be only a matter of time, but hey, how long we need to wait? Two years ago there was nothing acceptable for Android. And now it is still not any better in Apps area. Panda-Tetsuki showed up... after three years. For me, it is a consumer's nightmare to get cheap hardware with no good software.

I've used SmartGo Books on my family's ipad, and it's not made it worth changing. I have Wbaduk and Tetsuki on my Android. I have sgf handling software I'm happy with. One of these days I may try some of the others, but I've never had anything that made me desire an Ipad other than the Nihon Kiin magazines. They keep promising Android support, but it's never appeared unfortunately.

I have an iPad and these are my opinions:

• SmartGo Kifu for the iPad is decent but not brilliant. I use it primarily for tsumego but the tsumego collection is uses (from goproblems.com) is imperfect and sometimes quite annoyingly flaky - problems missing branches, solutions marked incorrect etc. It does include some pro. games but omits any sort of pattern search feature and many of the commented games are poor quality - some of them even stop part-way through the game and refer you to a book to buy on SmartGo books!
• SmartGo Books for the iPad is decent if you like electronic books. I don't so I will reserve judgement. (I find page-turning to be a chore on a device - particularly when a book is not read linearly and forward-only.) I also have some concerns about buying content that will eternally be locked to an Apple-controlled device.
• Panda Tetsuki for the iPad is amazing when it works. It is easily the best IGS client extant today and is a shining example of a good, touch-based U.I. for the game of go. Be aware that it does have some bugs. I have lost games due to its poor handling of wireless connections and resuming interrupted games.
• The iPad's Web Browser is not always your friend (no flash) but I have found that it is sufficient for most go-related browsing requirements.

I also have an Android phone but I have not found any good software for go players for that platform. I hear that the KGS application is brilliant but I am not prepared to pay the dire premium it sells for. I have tried out some of the tsumego apps but none of them have impressed.

Interestingly, one of the members of our club, here in Cape Town, wrote an Android application to interact with our national player database so we can capture results and view ratings wherever we might end up. I think the ability to do this is a huge benefit of the platform!

Charlie wrote: Interestingly, one of the members of our club, here in Cape Town, wrote an Android application to interact with our national player database so we can capture results and view ratings wherever we might end up. I think the ability to do this is a huge benefit of the platform!

Emphasis mine. There's only one thing preventing anyone from writing iPad apps, and it's just Apple Developer fees (I think it's 100€ per year, have not checked in a while) Anyway, you can always develop either web apps or even just offline javascript apps if what needs to be done is easy enough, without paying any fees (not counting the hosting of a web app).