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Re: How do you play the endgame?
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:38 am
by entropi
I don't play endgame because I hate counting. I don't play at kgs since I started playing extreme fighting games at tygem. There I have an account around 1-2 kyu and all of my games (not almost all but really all) finish either by resignation or by at least 30-40 points difference.
The concept is, launch a splitting attack (doesnt matter if it is reasonable or not), chase two dragons, either kill one of them or resign. No need to count, it is even forbidden because detaches you from the ongoing fight, (only counting liberties is allowed)!
I don't know how it is at dan levels in tygem, but I guess the style is not much different.
Re: How do you play the endgame?
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:37 am
by emeraldemon
entropi wrote:I don't play endgame because I hate counting. I don't play at kgs since I started playing extreme fighting games at tygem. There I have an account around 1-2 kyu and all of my games (not almost all but really all) finish either by resignation or by at least 30-40 points difference.
The concept is, launch a splitting attack (doesnt matter if it is reasonable or not), chase two dragons, either kill one of them or resign. No need to count, it is even forbidden because detaches you from the ongoing fight, (only counting liberties is allowed)!
I don't know how it is at dan levels in tygem, but I guess the style is not much different.
This works I guess, but don't you think there were games you could have won more easily with good endgame, but you started a battle instead? I know I've looked back at some of my games and felt like I picked fights when I was winning, and if I just took it to the endgame I could have saved myself a lot of trouble (and maybe the game).
Re: How do you play the endgame?
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:13 am
by entropi
emeraldemon wrote:entropi wrote:I don't play endgame because I hate counting. I don't play at kgs since I started playing extreme fighting games at tygem. There I have an account around 1-2 kyu and all of my games (not almost all but really all) finish either by resignation or by at least 30-40 points difference.
The concept is, launch a splitting attack (doesnt matter if it is reasonable or not), chase two dragons, either kill one of them or resign. No need to count, it is even forbidden because detaches you from the ongoing fight, (only counting liberties is allowed)!
I don't know how it is at dan levels in tygem, but I guess the style is not much different.
This works I guess, but don't you think there were games you could have won more easily with good endgame, but you started a battle instead? I know I've looked back at some of my games and felt like I picked fights when I was winning, and if I just took it to the endgame I could have saved myself a lot of trouble (and maybe the game).
You are absolutely right, this kind of berserker fighting style cannot be the best one if your goal is to win and/or to improve. But the other way inevitably requires positional judgement and counting which I do not enjoy. Since my goal is neither winning nor improving, I don't care so much if I lose a game because I started an unnecessary fight. Most of the time, I never learn anyway who was leading when the big fight started (even though one can assume that I was leading because my opponent welcomed the fight
).
On top of that, tygem also provides the "estimate" feature even while you are playing the game, but I don't use it either.
Re: How do you play the endgame?
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:08 pm
by cyclops
entropi wrote:I don't play endgame because I hate counting. ......
But you like reading threads about endgame ??
Re: How do you play the endgame?
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:42 am
by entropi
cyclops wrote:entropi wrote:I don't play endgame because I hate counting. ......
But you like reading threads about endgame ??
Yes. Even worse : I don't play football but I read about european cup.
Re: How do you play the endgame?
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:51 am
by shapenaji
How do you play the endgame?
A: Badly
But seriously, I just look for sente "In-between" moves as much as possible, it's one of those weird things where you can play a sub-optimal endgame, but if you're aggressive enough, you'll be in the right ball-park.
The biggest issue is respecting all your opponent's "sente" plays.
There are times when I've had massive exchanges in the endgame because I'm unwilling to take gote and let him fix somewhere else, so we each keep destroying eachother's territory (With a tiny change in the score difference, but a massive change in absolute score)