Life In 19x19

Well, we can't forget that zero Japanese players advanced through the preliminaries. That was the main reason that there were only four from Japan in the final (China had only five seeded players, see the OP). Nevertheless, the results so far make it look like the right two guys are fighting it out back home in the Honinbo.

Well, the problem is that top Japanese players (e.g Yamashita, Cho U...) don't usually play preliminaries of international tournament. Or they get seed, or they don't participate. If Japan can get good result in this LG Cup, I hope this will change.

In the preliminaries, I see some hopeful Japanese names like Murakawa Daisuke, Anzai Nobuaki or Fujita Akihiko, but they're all knock-out.

By the way, it was a shame that all Korean lost on their homeland.

Go Iyama, I don't want to see China dominates the Go world!!

Interesting fact from GoGameGuru (a second article on the round of 16): the last time Japan had a player in the quarterfinals was Kono Rin in 2008, when he defeated Han Sanghoon and Baek Hongsuk.

He also had a big win when he beat Gu Li in the Fujitsu back in 2009.

Pairing for quarter final,

Chen Yaoye vs Iyama Yuta
Tuo Jiaxi vs Takao Shinji
Li Qincheng vs Zhou Ruiyang
Li Zhe vs Xia Jiankun

trout wrote:Pairing for quarter final,

Chen Yaoye vs Iyama Yuta
Tuo Jiaxi vs Takao Shinji
Li Qincheng vs Zhou Ruiyang
Li Zhe vs Xia Jiankun

Incredibly tough match-ups for the two Honinbo challengers - playing the top two players in China!

Reminder.....
Quarter final - 11/11/13


Chen Yaoye vs Iyama Yuta
Tuo Jiaxi vs Takao Shinji
Li Qincheng vs Zhou Ruiyang
Li Zhe vs Xia Jiankun

trout wrote:Chen Yaoye vs Iyama Yuta

Really looking forward to this! My favourite modern chinese player against my favourite modern japanese player : ) I already replayed Chen Yaoye's first two games in the LG Cup and it felt like he could handle these players quite good. Japan's hope seems to be a tougher challenge =)

trout wrote:Pairing for quarter final,

Chen Yaoye vs Iyama Yuta
Tuo Jiaxi vs Takao Shinji
Li Qincheng vs Zhou Ruiyang
Li Zhe vs Xia Jiankun

One Chinese name should be Xia Chenkun (夏晨琨). The wrong name has been used everywhere, including 19x19, gogameguru and several online sgf 'collections'.

Also it would be nice to change the order of the 3rd and 4th pairs above to reflect the order of players in that photo.

trout wrote:Reminder.....
Quarter final - 11/11/13


Chen Yaoye vs Iyama Yuta
Tuo Jiaxi vs Takao Shinji
Li Qincheng vs Zhou Ruiyang
Li Zhe vs Xia Jiankun

What time do these games begin?

I am particularly excited to see Li Zhe's game. He doesn't play as much as the other top players, but he's creative and original - deeply inspired by the games of Go Seigen.

He's also a philosopher, currently undertaking graduate studies at Beida. The other Beijing pros see him as being extremely talented but quirky.

macelee wrote:One Chinese name should be Xia Chenkun (夏晨琨). The wrong name has been used everywhere, including 19x19, gogameguru and several online sgf 'collections'.

Also it would be nice to change the order of the 3rd and 4th pairs above to reflect the order of players in that photo.

Actually, I just checked, and we've always referred to this player as Xia Chenkun (http://gogameguru.com/tag/xia-chenkun/) and we don't have any record of any other name used for this player. I'd appreciate it if you didn't vaguely include us in your comment if you haven't checked. It wastes my time going back to check, among other things.

The one time when you you did leave a comment on our site about guoshou vs guoshuo, it was due to a simple typo, so don't just presuppose that we always get everything wrong.

Also, please give trout a break. His focus is on providing news as quickly as possible after it happens, not writing Shakespeare. He's Korean and, as you know, Korean names can be romanized in several different ways, so some ambiguity with Chinese names is understandable. I'm sure he wouldn't always agree with the names you use on Go4Go either, but he doesn't criticize you. Pinyin only became the international standard for Chinese names in the 80s and still isn't used consistently in the wider Asian region, in countries where Chinese is spoken.

Dear David,

I did my homework before posting that in case I got the fact wrong. Please find the attached screen capture (as you can see mistakes have been made on your site and damage has been done via Google).

And I was just trying to help, did not meant to blame anyone. So I am surprised the way you reacted.

Best regards,

Mace

gogameguru wrote:

macelee wrote:One Chinese name should be Xia Chenkun (夏晨琨). The wrong name has been used everywhere, including 19x19, gogameguru and several online sgf 'collections'.

Also it would be nice to change the order of the 3rd and 4th pairs above to reflect the order of players in that photo.

Actually, I just checked, and we've always referred to this player as Xia Chenkun (http://gogameguru.com/tag/xia-chenkun/) and we don't have any record of any other name used for this player. I'd appreciate it if you didn't vaguely include us in your comment if you haven't checked. It wastes my time going back to check, among other things.

The one time when you you did leave a comment on our site about guoshou vs guoshuo, it was due to a simple typo, so don't just presuppose that we always get everything wrong.

I see, you're talking about the Go calendar? I thought you were talking about the articles on our site.

The calendar is maintained by a group of generous, volunteer contributors (including trout) who help to maintain it for the community. We, at Go Game Guru, are just part of a bigger team. We use the data from the calendar on our site, the same way you do at Go4Go, but I don't consider the calendar to be ours, because it's a joint effort, so I was confused about what you could be referring to.

One of us (from Go Game Guru) will log in once a week to update it, tidy things up, and correct any errors we find, but other people are logging in and updating it at all different times. Sometimes people make mistakes and nobody has the resources to pay someone to sit there and make it perfect.

The exact same thing was also displayed on Go4Go because of that, so the situation is no different: If you're really worried about this, how about joining us and helping to maintain it? That way you could fix any errors that concern you immediately.

The reason why I came back a bit sharply was that I always see people here criticizing trout when he posts these updates. People tell him that he doesn't format the date properly, or that he made some spelling mistake, or something else. Seriously? He posts a huge amount of news here that isn't available anywhere else in English and he doesn't expect anything in return, so I just think people could lay off with the criticism a little and be a little more grateful.

Hi David,

Just to repeat, I never meant to criticize anyone. Just try to help. I respect trout's work a lot and in the past very frequently participated the discussions in his posts and sometimes added values to his posts.

The Go4Go even calendar is generated automatically using the RSS feed from your site (with credit) so no wonder if contains the same error. In fact I will be very happy to contribute to that calendar - please let me know what I need to do.

May I also suggest that we all think twice before using any harsh words as those only serve to discourage people from voicing their ideas and making contributions to the community.

Sorry about the misunderstanding.

Thank-you each for all your hard and continued work: Trout, macelee (Go4Go), GoGameGuru & Affiliates.