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Magicwand(4d) vs Emerus (2k)

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Re: Magicwand(4d) vs Emerus (2k)

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:55 pm
by emerus
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[go]$$ Prisoner Count: B-3 W-5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . X . X . . . . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X O . X . . . O X O X O X . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . O X X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . O X X X O O O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O O X . X O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X O . . . O O X . X . |
$$ | . X 7 . . X O O X . X X . O X X O O . |
$$ | . O O O O O X O X X O O . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O X O X . . . O X O O . . . |
$$ | . . O , . X X X X O . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X O O O O O O O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O . O X X X O O O X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O O O O X O . X X O O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X X X O . . . X X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X . O O O O . |
$$ | . X X X . O . . X O . X X X X X X X . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X O . 9 O O X X 8 X . |
$$ | . O . . O X . X X . O . O X X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
OK, this is going to get stupidly drawn out with this ko.... I have so much respect for my opponent but I'm a little annoyed. (With myself just as much as him, for not being strong enough to force resignation)

Re: Magicwand(4d) vs Emerus (2k)

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:58 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoner Count: B-4 W-6
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . X . X . . . . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X O . X . . . O X O X O X . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . O X X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . O X X X O O O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O O X . X O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X O . . . O O X . X . |
$$ | . X X . . X O O X . X X . O X X O O . |
$$ | . O O O O O X O X X O O . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O X O X . . . O X O O . . . |
$$ | . . O , . X X X X O . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X O O O O O O O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O . O X X X O O O X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O O O O X O . X X O O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X X X O . 2 3 X X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X . O O O O . |
$$ | . X X X . O . . X O . X X X X X X X . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X O . X O O X X 4 X . |
$$ | . O . . O X . X X . O O O X X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i believe below is correct numbering.
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[go]$$Wcm201 Prisoner Count: B-4 W-6
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . X . X . . . . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X O . X . . . O X O X O X . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . O X X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . O X X X O O O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O O X . X O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X O . . . O O X . X . |
$$ | . X X . . X O O X . X X . O X X O O . |
$$ | . O O O O O X O X X O O . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O X O X . . . O X O O . . . |
$$ | . . O , . X X X X O . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X O O O O O O O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O . O X X X O O O X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O O O O X O . X X O O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X X X O . O X X X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X . O O O O . |
$$ | . X X X . O . . X O . X X X X X X X . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X O . X O O X X 1 X . |
$$ | . O . . O X . X X . O O O X X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Magicwand(4d) vs Emerus (2k)

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:03 pm
by emerus
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[go]$$ Prisoner Count: B-4 W-6
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . X . X . . . . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X O . X . . . O X O X O X . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . O X X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . O X X X O O O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O O X . X O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X O . . . O O X . X . |
$$ | . X X . . X O O X . X X . O X X O O . |
$$ | . O O O O O X O X X O O . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O X O X . . . O X O O . . . |
$$ | . . O , . X X X X O . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X O O O O O O O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O . O X X X O O O X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O O O O X O . X X O O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X X X O . O X X X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X . O O O O . |
$$ | . X X X . O . . X O . X X X X X X X . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X O . X O O X X O X . |
$$ | . O . . O X . X X . O O O X X O . O 7 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 6 O . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I think this sequence loses a fewpoints for B but: if you accept.

Re: Magicwand(4d) vs Emerus (2k)

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:09 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Wcm201 Prisoner Count: B-4 W-6
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . X . X . . . . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X O . X . . . O X O X O X . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . O X X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . O X X X O O O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O O X . X O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X O . . . O O X . X . |
$$ | . X X . . X O O X . X X . O X X O O . |
$$ | . O O O O O X O X X O O . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O X O X . . . O X O O . . . |
$$ | . . O , . X X X X O . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X O O O O O O O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O . O X X X O O O X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O O O O X O . X X O O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X X X O . O X X X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X . O O O O . |
$$ | . X X X . O . . X O . X X X X X X X 3 |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X O . X O O X X O X . |
$$ | . O . . O X . X X . O O O X X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i will play 3 instead

Re: Magicwand(4d) vs Emerus (2k)

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:13 pm
by emerus
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[go]$$Wcm201 Prisoner Count: B-4 W-6
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . X . X . . . . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X O . X . . . O X O X O X . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . O X X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . O X X X O O O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O O X . X O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X O . . . O O X . X . |
$$ | . X X . . X O O X . X X . O X X O O . |
$$ | . O O O O O X O X X O O . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O X O X . . . O X O O . . . |
$$ | . . O , . X X X X O . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X O O O O O O O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O . O X X X O O O X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O O O O X O . X X O O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X X X O . O X X X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X . O O O O . |
$$ | . X X X . O . . X O . X X X X X X X O |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X O . X O O X X O X . |
$$ | . O . . O X . X X . O O O X X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X 4 O . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
He's trying to force me to capture m5 but it wont work....
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[go]$$Wcm201 Prisoner Count: B-4 W-6
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . X . X . . . . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X O . X . . . O X O X O X . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . O X X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . O X X X O O O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O O X . X O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X O . . . O O X . X . |
$$ | . X X . . X O O X . X X . O X X O O . |
$$ | . O O O O O X O X X O O . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O X O X . . . O X O O . . . |
$$ | . . O , . X X X X O . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X O O O O O O O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O . O X X X O O O X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O O O O X O . X X O O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X X X O . O X X X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X . O O O O . |
$$ | . X X X . O . . X O . X X X X X X X O |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X O . X O O X X O X . |
$$ | . O . . O X . X X . O O O X X O 5 O 6 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X 4 O 7 . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Black 6 would be bad - white continues at 7 then after the capture, there is a vital point at 5.
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[go]$$Wcm201 Prisoner Count: B-4 W-6
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . X . X . . . . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X O . X . . . O X O X O X . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . O X X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . O X X X O O O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O O X . X O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X O . . . O O X . X . |
$$ | . X X . . X O O X . X X . O X X O O . |
$$ | . O O O O O X O X X O O . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O X O X . . . O X O O . . . |
$$ | . . O , . X X X X O . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X O O O O O O O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O . O X X X O O O X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O O O O X O . X X O O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X X X O . O X X X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X . O O O O . |
$$ | . X X X . O . . X O . X X X X X X X O |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X O . X O O X X O X . |
$$ | . O . . O X . X X . O O O X X O 5 O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X 4 O 6 . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
6 in this diagram works. I expect resignation after that move.

Re: Magicwand(4d) vs Emerus (2k)

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 6:01 am
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Wcm201 Prisoner Count: B-4 W-6
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . X . X . . . 5 . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X O . X . . . O X O X O X . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . O X X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . O X X X O O O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O O X . X O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X O . . . O O X . X . |
$$ | . X X . . X O O X . X X . O X X O O . |
$$ | . O O O O O X O X X O O . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O X O X . . . O X O O . . . |
$$ | . . O , . X X X X O . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X O O O O O O O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O . O X X X O O O X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O O O O X O . X X O O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X X X O . O X X X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X . O O O O . |
$$ | . X X X . O . . X O . X X X X X X X O |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X O . X O O X X O X . |
$$ | . O . . O X . X X . O O O X X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Magicwand(4d) vs Emerus (2k)

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:53 pm
by emerus
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[go]$$Wcm201 Prisoner Count: B-4 W-6
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . X . X 6 . . O . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X O . X . . . O X O X O X . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . O X X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . O X X X O O O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O O X . X O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X O . . . O O X . X . |
$$ | . X X . . X O O X . X X . O X X O O . |
$$ | . O O O O O X O X X O O . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O X O X . . . O X O O . . . |
$$ | . . O , . X X X X O . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X O O O O O O O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O . O X X X O O O X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O O O O X O . X X O O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X X X O . O X X X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X . O O O O . |
$$ | . X X X . O . . X O . X X X X X X X O |
$$ | . X O O . . . . X O . X O O X X O X . |
$$ | . O . . O X . X X . O O O X X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I'll bite here. I'm 99% sure that I don't need this move but 1000% sure that I win if I play it.

Re: Magicwand(4d) vs Emerus (2k)

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 6:43 pm
by Magicwand
i resign.
thank you for the game..
you are very strong.

Re: Magicwand(4d) vs Emerus (2k)

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:06 pm
by Kirby
Good game, guys!

Re: Magicwand(4d) vs Emerus (2k)

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:18 pm
by emerus
Thank you for the game.

Re: Magicwand(4d) vs Emerus (2k)

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:06 pm
by emerus
I'm just looking through comments and these two cover most of them. :oops:
topazg wrote:
topazg wrote:
Is this interesting at all?
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[go]$$Wcm51 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-.5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . O . X . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X O . . . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . X . O X . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . O . O X O . 6 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . O X O O . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X X O 5 4 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Hmmm, White can save the side group, but does this work?
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[go]$$Wcm51 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-.5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . O . X . . . O . X . 8 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X . X . 0 . 6 X 7 . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X O . . . O . X 5 X 9 |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . X . O X . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . O . O X O . 4 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . O X O O . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X X O 3 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Wcm51 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-.5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . O . X . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X . X . a . 4 X . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X O . . . O 1 X 3 X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . X . O X 2 O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . O . O X O 5 X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . O X O O . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X b . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
So then the wedge at 'a' isn't possible. However, given the importance of the top area for eyespace/connection for both the white and black group, this might have been a good way to shore up weaknesses in blacks corner. Also possibly it might be why white later played at 'b'.
Jedo wrote:
Is there something wrong with this?
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . 5 4 6 7 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 2 1 . 3 8 X . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . a . X O . O X . O X X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . O X X X O O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . O O X . X O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X O . . . O O X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O X . X X . O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . O O O X O X X O O . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O X O X . . . O X O O . . . |
$$ | . . O , . X X X X O . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X O O O O O . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O . O X X X . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O O O O X O . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X X X O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . O . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think blacks fine like this
I was actually considering that with the peep at 'a' remaining, white can steal the entire corner and force me to capture his stones and the result wouldn't be better than ko. I'm not sure though.

Re: Magicwand(4d) vs Emerus (2k)

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:14 am
by SpongeBob
Congratulations, emerus. I am impressed by your strong game.

Re: Magicwand(4d) vs Emerus (2k)

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:59 am
by cyclops
I enjoyed the battle, thx. Is it that only W's eastside and center will survive?
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