I'm just getting very fed up and frustrated with this game, my play over the last 20 moves has been terrible, and with everything going on in my life right now, I'm so tempted to just resign.
Losing is fine, but boy, I really really hate playing like such a muppet.
Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:09 pm
by The Intrepid
topazg wrote:[hide]My current plan:
$$Wcm179 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O 2 X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O X O . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O 1 X 3 . . . . . . O X O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O B O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . B B B . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X O X . O . . . O . X . X | $$ | . . X O . O X O O . . . X . . . X . X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . | $$ | . . . X X X X X X X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . O O O . . . . X O X O O 4 | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm179 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O 2 X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O X O . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O 1 X 3 . . . . . . O X O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O B O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . B B B . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X O X . O . . . O . X . X | $$ | . . X O . O X O O . . . X . . . X . X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . | $$ | . . . X X X X X X X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . O O O . . . . X O X O O 4 | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Everything depends on the big point at as far as I can see, so I'm desperately hoping he can't cut the marked Black stones off. If he can, I simply resign, but I can't read anything that does it.
What about this?
$$Wc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O X X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O X O . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O O . O . . 1 . . . O X O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O B O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . B B B . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X O X . O . . . O . X . X | $$ | . . X O . O X O O . . . X . . . X . X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . | $$ | . . . X X X X X X X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . O O O . . . . X O X O O 4 | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O X X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O X O . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O O . O . . 1 . . . O X O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O B O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . B B B . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X O X . O . . . O . X . X | $$ | . . X O . O X O O . . . X . . . X . X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . | $$ | . . . X X X X X X X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . O O O . . . . X O X O O 4 | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Perhaps it is premature to think this game is over, but, man, what an epic throw by topazg!
Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:12 pm
by The Intrepid
@topazg
Hang in there, man! Where's that stiff upper lip Brits are supposed to have?
Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:15 pm
by topazg
@TheIntrepid
I think someone punched mine
Seriously, what was I thinking with , that loss of sente has put me behind and I can't see how to catch up. I'm torn about waiting for magicwand to get T3 first, but if he does, there's nothing I can do.
Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:23 pm
by Magicwand
$$Wcm181 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O X X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O X O . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O O X . 1 . . . . . O X O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X O X . O . . . O . X . X | $$ | . . X O . O X O O . . . X . . . X . X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . | $$ | . . . X X X X X X X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . O O O . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm181 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X O X O X X O X X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X X . O . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O X O . O . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O O X . 1 . . . . . O X O . | $$ | . O O O O . . O O X O . . . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , O O . . O X . O . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . O . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O X X X X . . O X X X . | $$ | . . O O . . X O X . O . . . O . X . X | $$ | . . X O . O X O O . . . X . . . X . X | $$ | . . X . . . X O X . O O O O O O O X . | $$ | . . . X X X X X X X X X X X X O . O X | $$ | . . O X O . O O O . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . X O O X X X . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
he either kill his middle group and take sente or save them and lose sente. either way i win.
Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:17 pm
by topazg
I resign. I'm fed up of ruining this game. Many thanks as always for a lot of fun magicwand
Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:24 pm
by Magicwand
Thank You, I enjoyed it.
Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:09 am
by Magicwand
i think move 12 is a start of his downfall. It is big..but my fist instinct was "that is my right! Him stealing my sente is big but i dont think it is good for him" i might be wrong but it was my first instinct.
$$Wcm111 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O X X . , . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . | $$ | . O O O O . . 1 O . O . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . O O . . X . X . . . . . O . . O . | $$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . X O . . O O . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X X X X O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . O . . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . X O O X X 2 . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm111 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . X . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . O X X . , . X O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . X . . . . . . . O . O . | $$ | . O O O O . . 1 O . O . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . O X . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . O O . . X . X . . . . . O . . O . | $$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . X O . . O O . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X X X X O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . O . . . . . X O X O O . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . X O O X X 2 . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:13 am
by Magicwand
5 was hard decision to make but after some thought..it is too big not to play.
$$Wcm91 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . 2 . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . . X . . , . 4 O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . . . . . . . . . O . O . | $$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . 1 O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . O O . . X . X . . . . . O . . 3 . | $$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . X O . . O O . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X X X X O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . O . . . . . X O X O 5 . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . X O O X X . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm91 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . 2 . O O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . . X . . , . 4 O X O X . . . | $$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . X X X X X . . | $$ | . X X O X O . . . . . . . . . O . O . | $$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . 1 O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . | $$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . O O . . X . X . . . . . O . . 3 . | $$ | . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . X O . . O O . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . , . X X X X O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . O . . . . . X O X O 5 . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . X O O X X . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:20 am
by Magicwand
first fighting resulted in moves i never seen. what do i think about the result?? on a even game i think black is better but.. handycapped game is a different story. you playing everything joseky will surely lessen the chance of you winning. what you will need to do is create variation and potentals that is hard to predict. i was perfectly satisfied with the wall that i built. i noticed that going after the points on handycap game is harder than using influence.
2-3-4-5 trade... is not good. it appears to give him security of the corner...but does it??? it help make my moyo grow..and didnt do anything for his corner.
i suggest ppl dont play that move if you want to improve.. there is reason why that shape never appears on professionals' game.
marcus: thank you for enjoying my game..and guessing my next move.. i played that move because it is simply better move than other approach on below postion. main focus of my this game is his points vs my influence. he ignored my influence and went after points sofar. my thickness is growing rapidly and few more moves...it will be so scary that he will need to think about invasion. which is usually not a good idea.. his worry about my influence caused him to jump into my area of operation which is still wrong answer IMO
i thought about above....but didnt like it due to two space weakness on the wall.. that is why decided to make it stronger by peep exchange. influence game is not simple as build influence...influence has to be weakness free in order to cash the check.
Re: #190 - topazg vs magicwand
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:09 am
by Magicwand
questionable move.. i can sense that he is afraid of my moyo. that fear forced him to overplay.
as far as I can see, so I'm desperately hoping he can't cut the marked Black stones off. If he can, I simply resign, but I can't read anything that does it.
, that loss of sente has put me behind and I can't see how to catch up. I'm torn about waiting for magicwand to get T3 first, but if he does, there's nothing I can do.
