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Re: ??. Magicwand (3d) vs. daniel_the_smith (1k)

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:06 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
Some idle speculations...
A good try by white looks like this:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . . . . 1 2 . |
$$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X 7 . , 3 4 . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . 8 . . . 6 5 . |
$$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . . . 0 9 . |
$$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

But white can never get that 5th liberty:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X O . , O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . X . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O 4 3 1 . |
$$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X 5 2 . |
$$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . 8 7 6 . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


So white plays 5 in the first diagram like this:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . . . . 1 2 . |
$$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X 7 . , 3 4 . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . 8 . . . 5 6 . |
$$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . . . 9 0 . |
$$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

...which continues like this:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . 8 9 . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X O . 0 O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . X . 5 . O X . |
$$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . 6 7 O X . |
$$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O 3 2 1 . |
$$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X 4 . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

...and this:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . 1 . 3 2 X . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X 4 X O 7 O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X O . X O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . X 5 O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . 6 X O O X . |
$$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O O X O . |
$$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: ??. Magicwand (3d) vs. daniel_the_smith (1k)

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:20 am
by Bantari
Joaz Banbeck wrote:Some idle speculations...[hide]A good try by white looks like this:


Not sure I agree with the final sequence.
How about that:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . 4 . . . X . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . X 1 . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X O 3 . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . X 2 O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . X O O X . |
$$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O O X O . |
$$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: ??. Magicwand (3d) vs. daniel_the_smith (1k)

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:35 am
by Kie
Bantari wrote:
Joaz Banbeck wrote:Some idle speculations...[hide]A good try by white looks like this:


Not sure I agree with the final sequence.
How about that:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . 4 . . . X . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . X 1 . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X O 3 . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . X 2 O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . X O O X . |
$$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O O X O . |
$$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think white can pull our a ko here:


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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . 4 5 . . X . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . X 1 . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X O . 3 O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . X 2 O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . X O O X . |
$$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O O X O . |
$$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: ??. Magicwand (3d) vs. daniel_the_smith (1k)

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:50 am
by Bantari
Kie wrote:
Bantari wrote:
Not sure I agree with the final sequence.
How about that:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . 4 . . . X . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . X 1 . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X O 3 . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . X 2 O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . X O O X . |
$$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O O X O . |
$$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think white can pull our a ko here:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . 4 5 . . X . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . X 1 . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X O . 3 O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . X 2 O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . X O O X . |
$$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O O X O . |
$$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Yeah, you're right.
Very interesting.

Re: ??. Magicwand (3d) vs. daniel_the_smith (1k)

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 3:18 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Bc W=2 B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . . . . W . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
it is very complicated.. but if professional play white they will find the way to live in the middle. i am not sure but i dont think black can kill white. i read both 'a' and 'b' both look logical and playable. after that...i dont know what will happen..but i will start my reading after his move.
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[go]$$Bc W=2 B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . . . . a . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X . . , b . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: ??. Magicwand (3d) vs. daniel_the_smith (1k)

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:19 pm
by daniel_the_smith
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bc W=2 B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . . . . O B . |
$$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I see, he plans to live. He has a lot of forcing moves, it might be possible. My only choice now is to try to kill. This move seems much better than jumping.

I don't think he can win if he dies here.

I don't think I can if he doesn't.

Re: ??. Magicwand (3d) vs. daniel_the_smith (1k)

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:27 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Bc W=2 B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X . . , W . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: ??. Magicwand (3d) vs. daniel_the_smith (1k)

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:38 am
by daniel_the_smith
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bc W=2 B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X . . , O B . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't see an obvious tactical refutation of jumping, but this feels a little safer.

Re: ??. Magicwand (3d) vs. daniel_the_smith (1k)

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:43 am
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Bc W=2 B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X . . , O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . . . . . W . . |
$$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: ??. Magicwand (3d) vs. daniel_the_smith (1k)

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:39 am
by daniel_the_smith
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bc W=2 B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X . . , O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . . . . B . |
$$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



I don't like the hane if I just extend. The four stones now have five liberties (s9 doesn't count), so they should be safe. Up 'til now I've only had two choices per move but it's about to get a lot more complicated, I think.

Re: ??. Magicwand (3d) vs. daniel_the_smith (1k)

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:51 am
by Magicwand
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bc W=2 B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X W . , O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: ??. Magicwand (3d) vs. daniel_the_smith (1k)

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:24 am
by Magicwand
i dont see how he can kill my group. he will resign soon.
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bc W=2 B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . . . . O X 5 |
$$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X W . , O X 4 |
$$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . 1 . . . O 2 3 |
$$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O . 6 7 . |
$$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X 8 . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: ??. Magicwand (3d) vs. daniel_the_smith (1k)

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:33 am
by daniel_the_smith
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bc W=2 B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X O . , O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . B . . . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I'm pretty sure I get into a lot of trouble if I play anything else.

Re: ??. Magicwand (3d) vs. daniel_the_smith (1k)

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:12 pm
by Magicwand
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bc W=2 B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X O . , O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . X . W . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: ??. Magicwand (3d) vs. daniel_the_smith (1k)

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:45 pm
by ethanb
I usually don't feel like I need to say this, but just in case...

not for players

Magicwand wrote:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bc W=2 B=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . X X . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . O . . . . X . X . . . O . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . O . X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . O . . O X O . . . X . O . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . O X . X O . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . O X X . X . X O O O X . . B . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X O O O . . O X O . , O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . X O O . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . O X O X X O O X . . X . . . . . X . |
$$ | . O X . X O O X X X X . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O O . X O O O . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . X . . X O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O O O X O X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X X O . . O . . X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . O . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I feel like this move should be played with an earth-shattering "kaboom!"