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#147 Marcus vs 1986

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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:05 pm
by 1986
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[go]$$Bcm150 Prisoners: :b2: :w2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X . O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O . X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . X O X O O . O O . X O O . O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X O 3 . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
lets see which side he will pick :scratch:
so far things have been going the way i planned them.

Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:24 pm
by Marcus
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[go]$$Bcm150 Prisoners: :b2: :w2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X . O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O . X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . X O X O O . O O . X O O . O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X O X 4 X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
This was a bit of a tough decision. I probably chose wrong. :P

Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:08 pm
by 1986
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[go]$$Bcm150 Prisoners: :b5: :w2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X . O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O . X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . X O X O O . O O . X . . 5 O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:33 pm
by Marcus
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[go]$$Bcm150 Prisoners: :b5: :w2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X . O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O . X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . X O X O O . O O . X . . X O 6 . . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Now I have all 4 corners ... not that it hasn't cost me dearly. :)

Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:34 pm
by 1986
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[go]$$Bcm150 Prisoners: :b5: :w2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X . O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O . X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . X O X O O . O O . X . . X O O 7 . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
that was a nice side to pick for white it does look much better than what i planned for him

now i expect him to cut &
this is what i expect for the next few moves
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[go]$$Bcm150 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X . O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O . X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . X O X O O . O O . X . . X O 6 7 . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X 8 O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X . 9 X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
we will see what happens :study:

Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:50 pm
by Marcus
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[go]$$Bcm150 Prisoners: :b5: :w2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X . O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O . X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . X O X O O . O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X 8 O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
No reason not to take this.

Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:44 am
by 1986
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[go]$$Bcm150 Prisoners: :b5: :w2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X . O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O . X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . X O X O O . O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X 9 . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I'm blocking off access to the center, I'm thinking
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[go]$$Bcm150 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X . O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O . X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O b X . O . |
$$ | . X O X O O . O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X 8 O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X 9 0 X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . a X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


followed by a-b
:study:

Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:24 am
by illluck
The other connect was better because this one ends in gote. White can't play 59 push because there's a ladder.

Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:29 am
by Marcus
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[go]$$Bcm150 Prisoners: :b5: :w2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X . O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O . X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O 0 X . O . |
$$ | . X O X O O . O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Forced.

Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:05 pm
by 1986
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[go]$$Bcm160 Prisoners: :b5: :w2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X 1 O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O . X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | . X O X O O . O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i got my a & b backwards on my last diagram
i gotta be more careful
but now we have something like this
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[go]$$Bcm150 Prisoners: :b5: :w2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X 1 O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O 2 X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | . X O X O O . O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . 3 O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
this solidifies my center area and now im on the look out for the biggest plays
i can find.

Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:27 pm
by Marcus
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm160 Prisoners: :b5: :w2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X X O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O 2 X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | . X O X O O . O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Need ... more ... points ... :mrgreen:

Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:37 pm
by 1986
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm160 Prisoners: :b5: :w2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X X O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O O X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | . X O X O O . O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X 3 . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
this is a good example of good sente, im making my group solid and im threatening to push through and make broken shape for white, its getting close to the endgame so i gotta make sure i push out all the points i can :rambo:

Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:55 pm
by Marcus
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm160 Prisoners: :b5: :w2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X X O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O O X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | . X O X O O . O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X X 4 . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Still just responding ... no openings yet ...

Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:14 pm
by 1986
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[go]$$Bcm160 Prisoners: :b5: :w2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X X O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O O X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | . X O X O O . O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . 5 X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
after a long look at the board this is what i came up with, it isn't much or a big fighting move but it blocks off territory and its sente :D

right now im just taking it move by move, if i stay focused i can keep him from going crazy on me and win this game :study:

Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:46 pm
by Celebrir
I think I would tenuki here as W because there are a lot of point swhich are more sente and if W is really behind (I didn't count) the worst think is to follow B's plans
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