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3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:38 pm
by Jordus
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[go]$$Bcm129 Move 129 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X O O X 1 . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X , X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i like the shape.... it seems strong...

death to white...

end comment...

Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:46 am
by Mosdefgo
Violence wrote:
Ore wa dare da to omotte yagaru!?(Just who the hell do you think I am!? Quote from anime.)
Outlaw Star? :geek:

Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:08 pm
by schultz
Mosdefgo wrote:
Violence wrote:
Ore wa dare da to omotte yagaru!?(Just who the hell do you think I am!? Quote from anime.)
Outlaw Star? :geek:
Outlaw Star?!!!

Gurren Lagann!!!

Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:47 am
by Phelan
I probably won't be able to play before tuesday/wednesday afternoon.

Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:21 am
by Mosdefgo
schultz wrote: Outlaw Star?!!!

Gurren Lagann!!!
Ahh! You are right. Then again, Im pretty sure it was on Outlaw Star too.. :-?

Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:41 pm
by Phelan
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[go]$$Wcm130 Move 130 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X 1 X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I have no idea what to play, or even how topazg and Magicwand want to live in the top right...So I'm playing a ko threat. If I get to this kind of situation where I don't know what to play, I'll ask my partners if we can resign. :-?
By the way, my SGF file for this game has two extra moves. Did I add two extra moves somewhere, or are we behind on numbering?

Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:01 pm
by Violence
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[go]$$Wcm130 Move 130 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X B O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Keh... passing things back to Magicwand...

I looked for a bigger ko threat to mess with Magicwand too, but I can't find one.

Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:05 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Wcm131 Move 131 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:38 pm
by Aphelion
To Magicwand:
Do you see a sequence to make the top white group live? Can you show it?

Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:26 pm
by Magicwand
Aphelion wrote:To Magicwand:
Do you see a sequence to make the top white group live? Can you show it?
to tell you the truth..i didnt read.
i have a feeling that there is something.
let's try to study together....

below variation white lives. i read this much.. but is there's any other way???
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move 131 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 W 3 4 O 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X O O X X 6 |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i dont think this is possible to kill white..
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move 131 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . W . . O 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
at least i dont see a way to kill my group.

Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:48 am
by Harleqin
Magicwand wrote: In the variation below, White lives. I read this much, but is there another way?
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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 W 3 4 O 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X O O X X 6 |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Rubbish. First of all, Black would obviously capture with :b5:, but :b3: is also bad:

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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 W . . O 2 3 |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:14 am
by illluck
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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 W . 4 O 2 3 |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X 6 X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I'm not sure, but this way looks a bit scary for black.

Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:08 pm
by daniel_the_smith
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[go]$$Bcm133 Move 133 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I think white should die. It's impossible to say what will happen in this game, though...
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[go]$$Bcm133 Move 133 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O . 6 O 5 . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X 2 X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 3 X . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm133 Move 133 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O 8 7 O 2 3 |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X 4 X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 5 X . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:04 am
by topazg
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[go]$$Wcm134 Move 134 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Threatening to live if Black tenukis.

Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:19 am
by Phelan
I think I understand now.
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[go]$$Wcm134 This cuts
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O 2 3 O 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X 5 X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 6 X . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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