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Re: A new server is being developed: Kaya.gs
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:02 am
by Xyiana
usagi wrote:At any rate you are right that Java is everywhere, and it is even everywhere that Javascript is not. With Android's support of Java, and iPhone's decision to drop flash (and Adobe's decision to drop flash on mobile platforms, and to move away from Flash in general) Java is really the only modern programming langauge available to developers which runs on phones, the web, desktops, and every desktop from mac ...
Dreams, mistakes, false informations...
(i am java/c#/flex all 3 together background)
1. My last Adobe Flex version and my Ipad2 are working together, phonegap, now adobe is not same as abandoning flash platform on mobile platforms.
2. I though C is everywhere not java ... i am more than happy that we finally persuaded others and officialy abandoned all java client interfaces 2y ago and switched them to flash/air
3. Android, iOS, Windows mobile... 1 Java subset support on 1 platform. But, but, but... java is everywhere, right? And even on android as game client/engine you often use OpenGL ES frameworks,same for other mobile/smartphone platforms
Back to kaya.gs. I prefer native interfaces but in mobile world their decision is much better than ignoring iOS and windows on mobiles like KGS did due to their java choice.
Re: A new server is being developed: Kaya.gs
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:19 pm
by Nagilum
usagi wrote:I'd like to speak out a bit as a Java programmer, and remind people that the reason why people think Java sucks is because Microsoft wanted you to think that.
LOL.
I'd like to remind people that the reason why people think Microsoft sucks is because some Java programmers wanted you to think that.
Re: A new server is being developed: Kaya.gs
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:46 am
by hyperpape
I was all set to write a negative Nancy post about how kaya had flaked on us for the past month. But it turns out they just didn't post updates to L19. They have a video up, and the supporter blog is open for everyone to view.
Re: A new server is being developed: Kaya.gs
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:13 am
by Kaya.gs
hyperpape wrote:I was all set to write a negative Nancy post about how kaya had flaked on us for the past month. But it turns out they just didn't post updates to L19. They have a video up, and the supporter blog is open for everyone to view.
Yes, i haven't been posting here because it is more comfortable for me to post to the blog directly. I've been very busy with some international tournaments at the beginning of the month so didnt have that many updates to do either, however i did almost 2 posts a week on the blog, with pictures, and information.
We have reached over 130 supporters, and blogger didnt let me have more than 100 private users, so I decided to open up the blog. I could have gone for another solution to keep the blog semi-private but it just wasn't worth the effort.
We have been contacted by several people, some go entrepreneurs, some other go servers, and other kind of potential help to kaya. We are in really good shape, work is going good. Instead of going for a super early beta, or "alpha" we decided to make a video to show some of the progress we did. The video shows about 70% of the features included, leaving out a whole chunk that is yet not visually designed.
However, in the meantime we got our new logo, which only a lucky few were able to see so far. With the new logo, and when i return to Argentina next week, we will talk about the "definite" design of the server, which will look much much closer to the prototype than what it is today.
We will be working again on the finishing touches of the server and make the beta happen. We aim to launch before X-mas.
I want to remind participants that the site has a Feedback section where you can vote ideas or suggest other ones. Its filled with rich information right now, and some ideas have been implemented already!
Re: A new server is being developed: Kaya.gs
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:28 am
by balistic
It's really looking great. I hope it's not true though that its going to be intergrated with facebook
Love the design work though
Re: A new server is being developed: Kaya.gs
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:41 am
by lovely
Why would integration with Facebook be a bad thing? I have some friends on KGS that I met years ago, but we don't have that much time to play each other anymore. Connecting it to Facebook would be handy, especially if kaya.gs would allow turn-based games where we could play a few moves at a time.
Plus, you can actually see who your opponent is, making the games more intimate and real.
Re: A new server is being developed: Kaya.gs
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:03 am
by RBerenguel
I haven't checked the exact wording in this case, but connecting to Facebook is bad when you can't be disconnected or have other login options. I never use Facebook connect for logins, I prefer either twitter or plain old user name+password. Keep in mind there are a lot of people who do not use Facebook (or twitter, or Google Plus...)
Re: A new server is being developed: Kaya.gs
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:03 am
by amnal
lovely wrote:Why would integration with Facebook be a bad thing? I have some friends on KGS that I met years ago, but we don't have that much time to play each other anymore. Connecting it to Facebook would be handy, especially if kaya.gs would allow turn-based games where we could play a few moves at a time.
Plus, you can actually see who your opponent is, making the games more intimate and real.
Many people strongly dislike facebook's commitment to slowly eroding the privacy of its users. Whilst I have no problem with voluntary facebook integration, I'd strongly oppose anything compulsory. As far as I remember, the developers don't plan to make it compulsory, if they implement it at all.
Re: A new server is being developed: Kaya.gs
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:13 am
by linuxdaemon
lovely wrote:Why would integration with Facebook be a bad thing? I have some friends on KGS that I met years ago, but we don't have that much time to play each other anymore. Connecting it to Facebook would be handy, especially if kaya.gs would allow turn-based games where we could play a few moves at a time.
Plus, you can actually see who your opponent is, making the games more intimate and real.
Facebook as an
option wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. If it was so integrated that all of the social features and logins
required facebook I would not be in favour of that.
Re: A new server is being developed: Kaya.gs
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:33 pm
by Kaya.gs
This discussion was totally blown out of proportion lol. Of course it wouldnt be mandatory. I think that noone made a reasonable argument not to integrate it, except personal dislike.
I will very likely make a facebook login, and potentially other features later on. I think potential investors would like to see that, and i would surely use it.
Flash of activity in a second in this thread. Hopefully people that read this also contribute to the Feedback section of the site
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As i said before im posting regularly on the blog,including pictures of the server. Today (about 40 mins ago) i finished the last missing piece of the flow to play games. Its already 100% playable on Kaya: opening games, starting, watching, finishing, playing again. Its working neat.
We are getting closer and closer!
Re: A new server is being developed: Kaya.gs
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:32 pm
by balistic
It's not so much personal dislike as it is alienation for those like myself who don't use FB. It feels like every site has to be in touch with it these days, big ol' Brother FB.
It will be disapointing if the site turns out to be basically a plugin for facebook users to play go on. Potential investors might love the idea, but some of us supporters do not. In this way Tygem, Wbaduk, KGS succeed. They keep their own images as stand alone models. Not a mix match of gettting the users through whatever means for them to later be seen as a commodity.
The sense of community and Sharing would come from the activities on the site itself anyhow, such as clubs and tournaments, matches etc. Why not contain the love of go's association with the website rather than dilute it through integrating 3rd party inferior services to emulate community?
Just voicing my concerns
long live kaya.gs, may it prosper and live long with lots of love and happiness.
Re: A new server is being developed: Kaya.gs
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:33 pm
by Tami
Do you have a clear idea when Kaya will be going online for people to play?
Will it be available to everybody?
It's very exciting and I really cannot wait to try it out.
Re: A new server is being developed: Kaya.gs
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:11 am
by balistic
If we dont find any big surprise, we estimate that next week's friday we might have the server up for an Alpha.
It's closed Alpha though for the donators at first from what i heard.
Re: A new server is being developed: Kaya.gs
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:22 pm
by wessanenoctupus
Just tried the pre-alpha version of Kaya, its looking pretty awesome. Can't wait for it to be really ready.
Re: A new server is being developed: Kaya.gs
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:10 pm
by Aphelion
How did you get to try it?