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Re: SoDesuNe paves his road to Shodan
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:03 am
by SoDesuNe
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Book 1. Run (correctly solved [%]) 2. Run 3. Run 4. Run (*four months later*)
YCH Tesuji 1 // 116 / 123 [94%] | 98 / 123 [80%] | 115 / 123 [93%] | 111 / 123 [90%]
YCH Tesuji 2 // 119 / 123 [97%] | 107 / 123 [87%] | 118 / 123 [96%] | - dropped out -
YCH Tesuji 3 // 97 / 123 [79%] | 97 / 123 [79%] | 107 / 123 [87%] | 101 / 123 [82%]
YCH Tesuji 4 // 119 / 123 [97%] | 120 / 123 [98%] | - dropped out - | - dropped out -
YCH Tesuji 5 // 75 / 123 [61%] | *85 / 123 [69%]* |
YCH Tsumego 1 // 121 / 123 [98%] | 115 / 123 [93%] | 120 / 123 [98%] | - dropped out -
YCH Tsumego 2 // 110 / 123 [89%] | 113 / 123 [92%] | 115 / 123 [93%] | 113 / 123 [92%]
YCH Tsumego 3 // 101 / 123 [82%] | 105 / 123 [85%] | 114 / 123 [93%] | 108 / 123 [88%]
YCH Tsumego 4 // 69 / 123 [56%] | 74 / 123 [60%] | 92 / 123 [75%] |
GS Opening // n/a | 131 / 175 [75%] | 144 / 175 [82%] | 149 / 175 [85%]
501 Opening // n/a | 340 / 501 [68%] | 372 / 501 [74%] |
YCH Tesuji vol. 5 was kind of an up and down. Several problems I had seen already (many times), so I could breeze through them. Others were unsolvable for me ^^ And a lot of variation mistakes of course.
Still quite happy that I could solve more problems than on the first try.
YCH L&D vol. 4 is next.
1. YCH Tesuji vol. 1
2. YCH L&D vol. 2
3. Get Strong at the Opening
4. YCH Tesuji vol. 3
5. YCH L&D vol. 3
6. YCH Tesuji vol. 5
7. YCH L&D vol. 4
8. 501 Opening Problems
9. Go/Segeo Tesuji Dict. 1
10. 1000 Weiqi Problems
And another commented game of mine:
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]HA[2]KM[0.50]TM[600]OT[5x20 byo-yomi]
PW[Me]PB[Opponent]WR[1d]BR[2k]DT[2013-10-04]PC[The KGS Go Server at
http://www.gokgs.com/]AB[pd][dp]RE[W+Time]
;W[qp]WL[599.149]
;B[cc]BL[577.564]
;W[fq]WL[595.613]
;B[cn]BL[567.403]
;W[qf]WL[593.766]
;B[qc]BL[556.286]
;W[pj]WL[578.834]LB[md:B][nd:A]C[White can also play at A or B directly to "punish" Black.]
;B[hq]BL[546.61]
;W[fo]WL[567.275]LB[md:E][nd:D][cq:B][dq:A][jq:C]C[This move is plain wrong, leads to an one-sided-fight and ultimatively to a huge loss for White.
Locally, White's only sensible choices are A to C. E or D at the top right are big as well.
C would work towards a framework and seems to be preferable.]
;B[dr]BL[527.888]
;W[er]WL[546.902]LB[jq:A]C[Heavy although consistent. A would be okay as well to cut the losses.]
;B[eq]BL[511.616]
;W[fr]WL[544.949]
;B[ho]BL[486.261]
;W[fm]WL[540.439]
;B[lq]BL[478.195]
;W[oq]WL[529.696]LB[cl:A][dm:B]C[Maybe too slow albeit big.
A seems a little bit too much "handicap-style" but just making shape with B seems to give Black too much. White already lost the initiative.]
;B[dk]BL[424.53]
;W[jq]WL[496.636]
;B[kp]BL[387.029]
;W[hr]WL[474.348]
;B[iq]BL[334.916]
;W[ir]WL[472.109]
;B[jp]BL[331.275]
;W[kr]WL[467.4]
;B[fp]BL[271.089]C[Good move.]
;W[gp]WL[464.655]
;B[ep]BL[268.231]
;W[gq]WL[462.567]
;B[go]BL[264.941]
;W[hp]WL[392.416]
;B[io]BL[247.929]C[Good.
Around ten points for White vs. the huge influence Black got. White's opening was a disaster.]
;W[ci]WL[388.349]
;B[fk]BL[213.526]
;W[cf]WL[367.985]C[Seems easy on Black but White needs to be patient for now.]
;B[dd]BL[180.812]LB[jc:B][md:D][nd:C][bk:A]C[Both A and B are huge now. I feel A might be bigger because of several follow-ups against the corner or to use the two White stones.
White still got D or C to play against the upper right corner, so he should not fear a Black framework.]
;W[jc]WL[362.895]
;B[hc]BL[172.292]
;W[mc]WL[360.812]
;B[oc]BL[160.365]
;W[je]WL[345.227]LB[bk:A]C[Solid but maybe too slow. A is huge.]
;B[bk]BL[145.733]
;W[bd]WL[260.173]
;B[bc]BL[135.555]
;W[fd]WL[236.08]LB[df:A]C[Overplay.
Just Black A and White is close to resigning.]
;B[he]BL[72.531]
;W[gd]WL[207.776]
;B[hd]BL[67.503]
;W[ff]WL[192.947]C[Now White has a chance to come back in the game.]
;B[hg]BL[46.559]
;W[fh]WL[153.936]
;B[kd]BL[11.241]
;W[jd]WL[150.24]
;B[kc]BL[20]OB[5]LB[lb:A][md:B]C[Wrong.
Black has either A or B. This move lets White set up a squeeze.]
;W[ke]WL[128.134]
;B[ld]BL[20]OB[4]
;W[kb]WL[119.77]
;B[lb]BL[20]OB[4]
;W[ib]WL[69.126]
;B[ka]BL[20]OB[4]
;W[jb]WL[66.249]
;B[md]BL[20]OB[4]
;W[hi]WL[24.368]C[When White manages to get a Moyo on the right through this attack, the game could be even again.]
;B[ih]BL[20]OB[3]
;W[kh]WL[16.068]C[Good direction.]
;B[ii]BL[20]OB[3]
;W[hj]WL[11.428]
;B[ij]BL[20]OB[3]
;W[hk]WL[20]OW[5]
;B[gl]BL[20]OB[2]
;W[ik]WL[20]OW[5]LB[kj:A]C[Wrong, too aggressive.
Hurts the right side and White cannot hope to kill Black. Just A to develop the right seems the better direction.]
;B[kj]BL[20]OB[2]
;W[jk]WL[20]OW[5]
;B[ki]BL[20]OB[2]
;W[lh]WL[20]OW[5]
;B[kk]BL[20]OB[2]
;W[of]WL[20]OW[5]
;B[km]BL[20]OB[1]
;W[ce]WL[20]OW[5]
;B[ec]BL[20]OB[1]
;W[fb]WL[20]OW[5]
;B[eb]BL[20]OB[1]
;W[gb]WL[20]OW[5]
;B[cd]BL[20]OB[1]
;W[be]WL[20]OW[5]
;B[db]BL[20]OB[1]
;W[ej]WL[20]OW[5]
;B[ek]BL[20]OB[1]
;W[pm]WL[20]OW[4]TR[ki][kj][kk]C[If White can hold the right side, he wins. But Black has already some strong stones in the center so it is unlikely that White can kill an invasion.]
;B[qj]BL[20]OB[1]
;W[qi]WL[20]OW[4]
;B[qk]BL[20]OB[1]
;W[pi]WL[20]OW[4]
;B[qm]BL[20]OB[1]
;W[pl]WL[20]OW[4]
;B[rn]BL[20]OB[1]LB[qo:A]C[Too slow. A is better to make shape.]
;W[ro]WL[20]OW[4]
;B[pn]BL[20]OB[1]
;W[on]WL[20]OW[4]LB[fd:C][je:B][ik:D][fo:A]TR[bk]C[It's not an easy fight for Black, giving that he takes two stones but he should be able to live.
A was by far the biggest mistake White made. After that the game was very favourable for Black.
B might be too slow, when playing from behind.
C was simply an overplay and could have been easily punished but Black chose to give White his last chance.
D was the wrong direction and lastly gave the game away.])
I'm very bad with handling weak stones/groups and profitting from an attack :o
Re: SoDesuNe paves his road to Shodan
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:40 am
by SoDesuNe
Oh my, oh my. I must be really getting tremendously strong, as in "before results show you often play worse". I rarely play as bad and make as many "simple" mistakes as these days.
Re: SoDesuNe paves his road to Shodan
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 10:12 am
by 1/7,000,000,000
SO SoDesuNe are you a solid 1d and if so when did you first reach the rank?
Re: SoDesuNe paves his road to Shodan
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:40 am
by SoDesuNe
I'm not 1-dan on KGS anymore : ( I burst through the 1-dan barrier in early September, went halfway to 2-dan, then dropped to 1-kyu, rose back to 1-dan and dropped to 1-kyu again ^^
I first reached 1-dan - as a rank on KGS - years ago, I think in November 2011 was the first time but I dropped back to around 2-kyu shortly after that. In March 2012, I reached 1-dan again and could hold it a while but utlimatively dropped to 1-kyu after around a douzen games. After that I dropped to 2-kyu as well, got back to 1-kyu fairly quickly, got demoted to 2-kyu again... (yaddayadda)
What keeps my spirit up is that I'm doing better and better with my Tsumego/Tesuji studies. I get faster and more correctly solved problems overall. It's a bit sad that this does not seem to show in my games but well, I'll keep going for now and maybe everything will sort itself out =) (Maybe I'm going to show some games for review since I can't get hold of my usual Sempai : ) )
Re: SoDesuNe paves his road to Shodan
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:52 am
by SoDesuNe
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Book 1. Run (correctly solved [%]) 2. Run 3. Run 4. Run (*four months later*)
YCH Tesuji 1 // 116 / 123 [94%] | 98 / 123 [80%] | 115 / 123 [93%] | 111 / 123 [90%]
YCH Tesuji 2 // 119 / 123 [97%] | 107 / 123 [87%] | 118 / 123 [96%] | - dropped out -
YCH Tesuji 3 // 97 / 123 [79%] | 97 / 123 [79%] | 107 / 123 [87%] | 101 / 123 [82%]
YCH Tesuji 4 // 119 / 123 [97%] | 120 / 123 [98%] | - dropped out - | - dropped out -
YCH Tesuji 5 // 75 / 123 [61%] | *85 / 123 [69%]* |
YCH Tsumego 1 // 121 / 123 [98%] | 115 / 123 [93%] | 120 / 123 [98%] | - dropped out -
YCH Tsumego 2 // 110 / 123 [89%] | 113 / 123 [92%] | 115 / 123 [93%] | 113 / 123 [92%]
YCH Tsumego 3 // 101 / 123 [82%] | 105 / 123 [85%] | 114 / 123 [93%] | 108 / 123 [88%]
YCH Tsumego 4 // 69 / 123 [56%] | 74 / 123 [60%] | 92 / 123 [75%] | *89 / 123 [72%]*
GS Opening // n/a | 131 / 175 [75%] | 144 / 175 [82%] | 149 / 175 [85%]
501 Opening // n/a | 340 / 501 [68%] | 372 / 501 [74%] |
72% for YCH Tsumego vol. 4, a bit worse than the last time but I personally feel I'm getting faster in spotting but remain bad in reading the relevant variations : D
Something different is next: 501 Opening Problems!
1. YCH Tesuji vol. 1
2. YCH L&D vol. 2
3. Get Strong at the Opening
4. YCH Tesuji vol. 3
5. YCH L&D vol. 3
6. YCH Tesuji vol. 5
7. YCH L&D vol. 4
8. 501 Opening Problems
9. Go/Segeo Tesuji Dict. 1
10. 1000 Weiqi Problems
Re: SoDesuNe paves his road to Shodan
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:03 am
by logan
At your level I had opposite strengths. I had hardship scoring on the opening problems, but picked up the tesuji problems naturally

Maybe it had something to do with the way I was categorizing the tesuji in my head, but had difficulty finding a similar method for the opening problems.
Let me know when you get started on
1000 Weiqi Problems. If I have the time, then I'll join you. It's a fun book

(Maybe some other people will like to join us.)
Re: SoDesuNe paves his road to Shodan
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:23 am
by SoDesuNe
I already decided that this is the last cycle with opening problems for now. Although I'm far away from my goal to reach a score of 95% in the relevant books, I can't help but feel it's a bit pointless since my - in my opinion - more glaring weaknesses are Tesujis as in making shape and fighting. Maybe I'll compose an all-out Tesuji cycle. We will see : )
I'll gladly let you know, when I start with 1000 Weiqi Problems! Should be fun =)
Re: SoDesuNe paves his road to Shodan
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:27 am
by RBerenguel
Let me know when you start with Segoe/Seigen's Tesuji... I guess you'll be doing B and C? Or will you also try A? At my current level I can do (and not perfectly) C level problems, and kind of find the first few moves of some B problems, so I'll only join you for the C ones

Re: SoDesuNe paves his road to Shodan
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:22 am
by SoDesuNe
Sure : )
Yeah, I will stick with C and B right now. I tried A, too, the last time but I needed more than ten minutes for one problem and that tells me, I'm not strong enough yet =D
Re: SoDesuNe paves his road to Shodan
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:56 pm
by rouyakun
As long as you are consistent with your studies, you should keep on improving although the results might not show up immediately - is what I believe. (How I wish I was consistent too but meh...)
What's this segoe tesuji dictionary btw? Is it a book of sorts? Looks interesting.
Re: SoDesuNe paves his road to Shodan
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 12:09 am
by SoDesuNe
Ha ha ha, yeah, that's the way it normaly goes : D
Here you can find a bit more about the books:
http://senseis.xmp.net/?SegoeTesujiDictionary I only hear praise for them.
Re: SoDesuNe paves his road to Shodan
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:07 am
by RBerenguel
Bougth the three-pack from Yutopian, and couldn't be happier. A very good price and incredibly game-like problems. I even made a half-board in leather (I posted a picture in my study journal a while ago) to have one of these problems always at hand

Re: SoDesuNe paves his road to Shodan
Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:25 am
by SoDesuNe
So, I finished Final Summit today! It took me quite longer than I expected but it sadly took also quite some time to find a quiet hour for some quality Go time.
I plan to repeat the book right away and look forward to the excellent commentary of the ten-game-match (the seven 3-game-matches are a little sparsely commentated). If I had to compare the games to those in Games of Shuei, I must say, I find them way more complex and deep. But maybe this is due to the comparable strength between Go and Takagawa. I had the feeling (and the text supports it) that Shuei was without a peer in his later life.
I already solved 360 problems from 501 Opening problems and I think, I still learn a lot with every run. The easier some problems get, the more I see in other problems - really interesting =)
Maybe I will not throw out the opening problems after all but reduce the Tsumego ones?
Luckily, I have quite some time to decide : )
Re: SoDesuNe paves his road to Shodan
Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:31 am
by SoDesuNe
Ha ha ha, if you ever want prove how your mental state might affect your game then try to solve problems on e.g. goproblems.com while being agitated ^^
Re: SoDesuNe paves his road to Shodan
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:37 am
by SoDesuNe
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Book 1. Run (correctly solved [%]) 2. Run 3. Run 4. Run (*four months later*)
YCH Tesuji 1 // 116 / 123 [94%] | 98 / 123 [80%] | 115 / 123 [93%] | 111 / 123 [90%]
YCH Tesuji 2 // 119 / 123 [97%] | 107 / 123 [87%] | 118 / 123 [96%] | - accomplished -
YCH Tesuji 3 // 97 / 123 [79%] | 97 / 123 [79%] | 107 / 123 [87%] | 101 / 123 [82%]
YCH Tesuji 4 // 119 / 123 [97%] | 120 / 123 [98%] | - accomplished - | - accomplished -
YCH Tesuji 5 // 75 / 123 [61%] | *85 / 123 [69%]* |
YCH Tsumego 1 // 121 / 123 [98%] | 115 / 123 [93%] | 120 / 123 [98%] | - accomplished -
YCH Tsumego 2 // 110 / 123 [89%] | 113 / 123 [92%] | 115 / 123 [93%] | 113 / 123 [92%]
YCH Tsumego 3 // 101 / 123 [82%] | 105 / 123 [85%] | 114 / 123 [93%] | 108 / 123 [88%]
YCH Tsumego 4 // 69 / 123 [56%] | 74 / 123 [60%] | 92 / 123 [75%] | 89 / 123 [72%]
GS Opening // n/a | 131 / 175 [75%] | 144 / 175 [82%] | 149 / 175 [85%]
501 Opening // n/a | 340 / 501 [68%] | 372 / 501 [74%] | 387 / 501 [77%]
Again a little bit better in 501 Opening Problems than in the previous run(s).
I will start Go/Segeo Tesuji Dict. vol. 1 today (C and B problems). So, RBerenguel and anyone who wants to join, too: Have fun and good luck =)
1. YCH Tesuji vol. 1
2. YCH L&D vol. 2
3. Get Strong at the Opening
4. YCH Tesuji vol. 3
5. YCH L&D vol. 3
6. YCH Tesuji vol. 5
7. YCH L&D vol. 4
8. 501 Opening Problems
9. Go/Segeo Tesuji Dict. vol. 1
10. 1000 Weiqi Problems