#197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

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F9
typo. I meant to say e10. I will play as is.

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if he try to kill me...
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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This is a good sign. If MW really thought that he could win in yose, he would have tenukied or just protected at R7. But when he chooses to play ko, it means that he is still worried about the possibility of losing.
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[go]$$Bcm99 Prisoners: white: 2 black: 0
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$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . O . . . X . . . |
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if you answer normally then i take ko..
he is prolonging his agony. how does he expect to win this ko fight?
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Joaz Banbeck wrote:This is a good sign. If MW really thought that he could win in yose, he would have tenukied or just protected at R7. But when he chooses to play ko, it means that he is still worried about the possibility of losing.


Errr, no. Connect is gote. Ko is likely sente as this ko is a bigger risk for black (who stands to lose a lot in corner) than white so probably black will end up connecting at t4. That's my feeling without actually counting ko threats.
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Answer ko threat
If you take ko I will use c14 if you cut I connect if you capture my stone then I take ko

Hope I was clear enough.
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"Hope I was clear enough." Sure, no problem.

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Ko threat at 1, if you answer 2, I retake ko with 3.
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Why don't you count captured in ko stones? White:4 black:3
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C12 and take ko
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$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X 6 X |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 5 black: 3
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . . . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O X X . . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O X O . O X . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . O O O X O O O X . . |
$$ | . X O X O X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O O . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . . . X O O O O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O O . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . 1 a O O X X . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O 3 O |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X C X |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 5 black: 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . . . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O X X . . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O X O . O X . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . 4 . X O . . O . O O O X O O O X . . |
$$ | . X O X O X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O O . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . . . X O O O O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O O . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . 2 . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . 1 . O O X X . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O 3 O |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X C X |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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The greater the unknown"

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