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#263 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

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Re: #263 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:06 am
by Joaz Banbeck
Magicwand wrote:O12
Move 155 at O12.
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm151 Prisoners: :black: :black: :white: :white:
$$ ----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 4 O O O X . 3 . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . O X X X X X 1 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 2 X O O O . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . X . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . X . . . 5 . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . O X X . X . O X . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . O . O . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O O . X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O . X O O X . . . O O X . O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . 6 . X O X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . O O X . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O O . O O O O X X . X X O . O . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X X X X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . O . X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . X O O X X O O . . O X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Trigger:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm151
$$ ----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 4 O O O X . 3 . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . O X X X X X 1 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 2 X O O O . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . X . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . X . . . 5 . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . O X X . X . O X . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . O . O . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O O . X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O . X O O X 8 9 . O O X . O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X X X 7 6 0 X O X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . O O X . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O O . O O O O X X . X X O . O . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X X X X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . O . X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . X O O X X O O . . O X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
As noted earlier, this is probably unnecessary, but I have been looking forward to doing it for weeks.

Re: #263 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:05 am
by Magicwand
My 57 will be at H8

Re: #263 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:37 am
by tj86430
Magicwand wrote:My 57 will be at H8
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm151 Prisoners: :black: :black: :white: :white:
$$ ----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 4 O O O X . 3 . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . O X X X X X 1 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 2 X O O O . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . X . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . X . . . 5 . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . O X X . X . O X . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . O . O . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O O . X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O . X O O X 7 . . O O X . O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . 6 . X O X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . O O X . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O O . O O O O X X . X X O . O . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X X X X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . O . X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . X O O X X O O . . O X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #263 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:03 pm
by Kirby
MW hinted at killing black on the right. I can't quite see a way to kill, myself - black seems to have space.

But if white did kill, it would put him back in the game (though, black would still seem to have good chance, too), so it'd be nice too see something like that happen.

Alas, seems difficult, though. At least this ko potential in the center is interesting.

Re: #263 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 1:52 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
Magicwand wrote:My 57 will be at H8
*Scrrrreeeeeech* Hold on here. That's the wrong ko!
MY group could be at risk.

I must start thinking again.

Re: #263 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:06 pm
by Magicwand
obs
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm Prisoners: :black: :black: :white: :white:
$$ ----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O O X . O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . O X X X X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O O . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . X . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . X . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . 4 X . O X X . X . O X . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X 2 O . O . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X 3 9 O O 7 X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O . X O O X O 0 8 O O X . O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X X X 1 X 5 X O X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O 6 O O X . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O O . O O O O X X . X X O . O . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X X X X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . O . X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . X O O X X O O . . O X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I am sure my opponent will read this out... white die.
I think my opponent will not try to kill be because he is ahead by alot.

Re: #263 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:18 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
@observers:
Joaz Banbeck wrote:
Magicwand wrote:My 57 will be at H8
*Scrrrreeeeeech* Hold on here. That's the wrong ko!
MY group could be at risk.

I must start thinking again.
After thinking a bit, it appears that I do not have to fight the other ko. I can ignore it and just run him short on liberties.
This makes no sense. Did MW really exchange a ko that he could fight for a straight liberties race that he can't possibly win?

Either he is suicidal or I am stupid.
I suppose that the two are not mutually exclusive. :oops:

Re: #263 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:55 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm151 Prisoners: :black: :black: :white: :white:
$$ ----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 4 O O O X . 3 . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . O X X X X X 1 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 2 X O O O . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . X . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . X . . . 5 . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . O X X . X . O X . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . O . O . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O O . X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O . X O O X 7 . . O O X . O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X X X 8 6 . X O X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . O O X . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O O . O O O O X X . X X O . O . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X X X X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . O . X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . X O O X X O O . . O X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I've spent a solid hour reading this, and cannot see how I can lose. I concluded many days ago that the line with the ko at H7/H8 was white's best chance, and I still hold that opinion.
I suppose that a purely rational player would let the ko slide, and just win on points in other parts of the board. But there is an issue of fighting spirit here: there is no way that I can show my face ...err, avatar... on these boards if I have let MW bluff me out of an easily won liberties race.

Re: #263 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:04 pm
by Magicwand
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm151 Prisoners: :black: :black: :black: :white: :white:
$$ ----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 4 O O O X . 3 . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . O X X X X X 1 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 2 X O O O . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . X . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . X . . . 5 . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . O X X . X . O X . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . O . O . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O O . X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O . X O O X 7 . . O O X . O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X X X 8 6 9 C O X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . O O X . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O O . O O O O X X . X X O . O . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X X X X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . O . X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . X O O X X O O . . O X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: #263 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:25 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm151 Prisoners: :black: :black: :black: :white: :white:
$$ ----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 4 O O O X . 3 . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . O X X X X X 1 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 2 X O O O . O . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . X . . . . . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O X . X . . . 5 . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . X . O X X . X . O X . . |
$$ | . O . X O . X . O . O . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O O . X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O . X O O X 7 0 . O O X . O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X X X 8 6 9 C O X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O . O . O O X . . O O X . |
$$ | . O X O O . O O O O X X . X X O . O . |
$$ | . O X X O X X X O X X X X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O X . X O X . X O X . O . X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . X O O X X O O . . O X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
No more ko. If he tries it, I have the double capture.

Re: #263 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:31 pm
by Magicwand
resign!
too strong for 3 stone.

thank you.

Re: #263 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:37 pm
by Go_Japan
Magicwand wrote:resign!
too strong for 3 stone.

thank you.
Good game you two. Thanks for lettings us into your minds.

Re: #263 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:53 pm
by Magicwand
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm21c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
This was the start of my downfall. I should have just connected.

Re: #263 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:46 pm
by Kirby
Thanks for the interesting game.

Re: #263 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 1:10 am
by tj86430
Thank you indeed!

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