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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:19 am
by daniel_the_smith
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[go]$$Bcm143 Move 143 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X B . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


He's bluffing or hoping for a mistake. By my count we're about 10 points ahead, not quite enough that I feel it's worth it to atari on the other side of the white stone, giving them a few stones in exchange for safety. I hope we can get d18, that would really seal the deal.

Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:22 am
by topazg
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[go]$$Wcm144 Move 144 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X 1 . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm144 Move 144 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . 2 4 . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X 1 3 . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X 6 X 7 . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X 5 . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:40 am
by daniel_the_smith
Ah, crap, I didn't think about that side, grrr.

Oh well, it's not the first time I lost the game for us. :cry:

Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:59 am
by Jordus
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[go]$$Bcm145 Move 145 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . 1 . . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:42 am
by Violence
*facepalm*

Just... two moves of reading...

Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:07 pm
by Phelan
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[go]$$Wcm146 Move 146 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O 1 . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

These cuts seem interesting, but I'm glad this is an automatic move, sice I can't read them that well.

Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:19 pm
by Violence
... what do I even do here...


I'll move later.

Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:15 am
by Violence
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[go]$$Bcm147 Move 147 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . X 1 . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I can't believe Jordus played that atari... I can't find anything now. Resignation is soon.

Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:21 pm
by Magicwand
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[go]$$Bcm147 Move 147 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . X X . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X W . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:07 am
by daniel_the_smith
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[go]$$Bcm149 Move 149 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . X X . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X O B . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Seems to be the only move. Atari on the other side could lead to a ko or a result not much different than this, white's choice. So there doesn't seem to be an advantage, as the ko wouldn't help us that much, and if it did, white wouldn't allow it.

Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:10 am
by Magicwand
i am not playing this game to find a best moves and sequence.
my main focus in this game is to give my weakest link the obvious moves only.
but that is even harder than finding best move :(

Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:27 am
by topazg
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[go]$$Wcm150 Move 150 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . X X . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O X O X . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X O 1 . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Maximising our chance of connecting to H9

Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:34 am
by Magicwand
below is the correct answer to black's atari. :(
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[go]$$Wcm150 Move 150 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . X X . X . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . O O O X . . . . O . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . 1 X . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . O O . O X . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O X O X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X X O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X . O X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:44 am
by topazg
Am I allowed to ask, was your comment about comparing the extension to the capture? If so, would you have done the other?

Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:48 am
by Magicwand
to topazg: yes it was.
and you probably can guess what i said in my hidden.