$$Bcm231 white : 14 black : 8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X X | $$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X X X . O | $$ | . . O O O X O . X X O O X O O O X . O | $$ | . . X . . X O O O O X O X X O X X X O | $$ | . . X O O X O X O . X O X O O X X O . | $$ | . O O X X X O X X O O O X X O O O O O | $$ | . . . X O O O O X X X O X O X X X O . | $$ | . . . X X X X X O X . O X O O X O . . | $$ | . . X . . X O O O X X X X O . X O . . | $$ | . X X . X O O X X X . X O O X . X O . | $$ | . O X X X O X . X X X 9 X O O . X O . | $$ | . O X . O O O X X O X X O . O O X X . | $$ | . . O X X O O O O O . O X O X X . X . | $$ | . . O . X X X O . O . O X O . O X . . | $$ | . O . O X O O O . X . X X X X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X . . . O X O . . O O X O . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm231 white : 14 black : 8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X X | $$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X X X . O | $$ | . . O O O X O . X X O O X O O O X . O | $$ | . . X . . X O O O O X O X X O X X X O | $$ | . . X O O X O X O . X O X O O X X O . | $$ | . O O X X X O X X O O O X X O O O O O | $$ | . . . X O O O O X X X O X O X X X O . | $$ | . . . X X X X X O X . O X O O X O . . | $$ | . . X . . X O O O X X X X O . X O . . | $$ | . X X . X O O X X X . X O O X . X O . | $$ | . O X X X O X . X X X 9 X O O . X O . | $$ | . O X . O O O X X O X X O . O O X X . | $$ | . . O X X O O O O O . O X O X X . X . | $$ | . . O . X X X O . O . O X O . O X . . | $$ | . O . O X O O O . X . X X X X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X . . . O X O . . O O X O . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: Magicwand vs Lovelove
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:11 pm
by Magicwand
J4 atari
Re: Magicwand vs Lovelove
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:15 pm
by lovelove
$$Bcm241 white : 14 black : 8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X X | $$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X X X . O | $$ | . . O O O X O . X X O O X O O O X . O | $$ | . . X . . X O O O O X O X X O X X X O | $$ | . . X O O X O X O . X O X O O X X O . | $$ | . O O X X X O X X O O O X X O O O O O | $$ | . . . X O O O O X X X O X O X X X O . | $$ | . . . X X X X X O X . O X O O X O . . | $$ | . . X . . X O O O X X X X O . X O . . | $$ | . X X . X O O X X X . X O O X . X O . | $$ | . O X X X O X . X X X X X O O . X O . | $$ | . O X . O O O X X O X X O . O O X X . | $$ | . . O X X O O O O O . O X O X X . X . | $$ | . . O . X X X O . O . O X O . O X . . | $$ | . O . O X O O O O X 1 X X X X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X . . . O X O . . O O X O . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm241 white : 14 black : 8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X X | $$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X X X . O | $$ | . . O O O X O . X X O O X O O O X . O | $$ | . . X . . X O O O O X O X X O X X X O | $$ | . . X O O X O X O . X O X O O X X O . | $$ | . O O X X X O X X O O O X X O O O O O | $$ | . . . X O O O O X X X O X O X X X O . | $$ | . . . X X X X X O X . O X O O X O . . | $$ | . . X . . X O O O X X X X O . X O . . | $$ | . X X . X O O X X X . X O O X . X O . | $$ | . O X X X O X . X X X X X O O . X O . | $$ | . O X . O O O X X O X X O . O O X X . | $$ | . . O X X O O O O O . O X O X X . X . | $$ | . . O . X X X O . O . O X O . O X . . | $$ | . O . O X O O O O X 1 X X X X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X . . . O X O . . O O X O . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: Magicwand vs Lovelove
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:39 pm
by The Intrepid
Magicwand almost pulled it off. If only he could save both of the following groups, the game would actually be fairly close. In fact, if Magicwand could also live in the lower right corner, he'd win by ~20 points, or something like that. Won't happen, though. :/
$$Bcm241 white : 14 black : 8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X X | $$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X X X . W | $$ | . . O O O X O . X X O O X W W W X . W | $$ | . . X . . X O O O O X O X X W X X X W | $$ | . . X O O X O X O . X O X W W X X W . | $$ | . O O X X X O X X O O O X X W W W W W | $$ | . . . X O O O O X X X O X O X X X W . | $$ | . . . X X X X X W X . O X O O X W . . | $$ | . . X . . X W W W X X X X O . X W . . | $$ | . X X . X W W X X X . X O O X . X W . | $$ | . O X X X W X . X X X X X O O . X W . | $$ | . O X . W W W X X W X X O . O O X X . | $$ | . . O X X W W W W W . O X O X X . X . | $$ | . . O . X X X W . W . O X O . O X . . | $$ | . O . O X W W W W X X X X X X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X . . . W X O . . O O X O . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm241 white : 14 black : 8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X X | $$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X X X . W | $$ | . . O O O X O . X X O O X W W W X . W | $$ | . . X . . X O O O O X O X X W X X X W | $$ | . . X O O X O X O . X O X W W X X W . | $$ | . O O X X X O X X O O O X X W W W W W | $$ | . . . X O O O O X X X O X O X X X W . | $$ | . . . X X X X X W X . O X O O X W . . | $$ | . . X . . X W W W X X X X O . X W . . | $$ | . X X . X W W X X X . X O O X . X W . | $$ | . O X X X W X . X X X X X O O . X W . | $$ | . O X . W W W X X W X X O . O O X X . | $$ | . . O X X W W W W W . O X O X X . X . | $$ | . . O . X X X W . W . O X O . O X . . | $$ | . O . O X W W W W X X X X X X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X . . . W X O . . O O X O . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: Magicwand vs Lovelove
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:45 pm
by jts
Well, Logan, he only needs to ignore three more threats...
Re: Magicwand vs Lovelove
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:50 pm
by The Intrepid
I'm not "Logan" but whatever.
Re: Magicwand vs Lovelove
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:12 am
by jts
The Intrepid wrote:
I'm not "Logan" but whatever.
Logan was telling me that mw's plan was to make a seven step ko... Not a big deal.
Re: Magicwand vs Lovelove
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:26 am
by The Intrepid
Oh, sorry ... And I was just about to say, "Don't call me Shirley."
Re: Magicwand vs Lovelove
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:51 am
by logan
Thank-you The Intrepid, I was also confused by jts's post.
There's no ko anymore jts:
$$Wc white : 14 black : 8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X X | $$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X X X . O | $$ | . . O O O X O . X X O O X O O O X . O | $$ | . . X . . X O O O O X O X X O X X X O | $$ | . . X O O X O X O . X O X O O X X O . | $$ | . O O X X X O X X O O O X X O O O O O | $$ | . . . X O O O O X X X O X O X X X O . | $$ | . . . X X X X X O X . O X O O X O . . | $$ | . . X . . X O O O X X X X O . X O . . | $$ | . X X . X O O X X X . X O O X . X O . | $$ | . O X X X O X 1 X X X X X O O . X O . | $$ | . O X . O O O X X O X X O . O O X X . | $$ | . . O X X O O O O O . O X O X X . X . | $$ | . . O . X X X O . O . O X O 2 O X . . | $$ | . O . O X O O O O X X X X X X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X . . . O X O . . O O X O . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wc white : 14 black : 8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X X | $$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X X X . O | $$ | . . O O O X O . X X O O X O O O X . O | $$ | . . X . . X O O O O X O X X O X X X O | $$ | . . X O O X O X O . X O X O O X X O . | $$ | . O O X X X O X X O O O X X O O O O O | $$ | . . . X O O O O X X X O X O X X X O . | $$ | . . . X X X X X O X . O X O O X O . . | $$ | . . X . . X O O O X X X X O . X O . . | $$ | . X X . X O O X X X . X O O X . X O . | $$ | . O X X X O X 1 X X X X X O O . X O . | $$ | . O X . O O O X X O X X O . O O X X . | $$ | . . O X X O O O O O . O X O X X . X . | $$ | . . O . X X X O . O . O X O 2 O X . . | $$ | . O . O X O O O O X X X X X X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X . . . O X O . . O O X O . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
After White saves the bottom group then Black kills the right group (because White ignored the marked ko threat earlier):
$$Wc white : 14 black : 8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . 8 7 . 9 . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X X | $$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X X X . O | $$ | . . O O O X O . X X O O X O O O X . O | $$ | . . X . . X O O O O X O X X O X X X O | $$ | . . X O O X O X O . X O X O O X X O . | $$ | . O O X X X O X X O O O X X O O O O O | $$ | . . . X O O O O X X X O X O X X X O . | $$ | . . . X X X X X O X . O X O O X O 4 2 | $$ | . . X . . X O O O X X X X O . X O 5 3 | $$ | . X X . X O O X X X . X O O X . X O . | $$ | . O X X X O X . X X X X X O O . X O 6 | $$ | . O X . O O O X X O X X O . O O X Y . | $$ | . . O X X O O O O O . O X O X X . X . | $$ | . . O . X X X O . O . O X O . O X . . | $$ | . O . O X O O O O X X X X X X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X . . . O X O . . Q Q X Q . | $$ | . X X O . . . . 1 . . . . X . . Q . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wc white : 14 black : 8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . 8 7 . 9 . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X X | $$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X X X . O | $$ | . . O O O X O . X X O O X O O O X . O | $$ | . . X . . X O O O O X O X X O X X X O | $$ | . . X O O X O X O . X O X O O X X O . | $$ | . O O X X X O X X O O O X X O O O O O | $$ | . . . X O O O O X X X O X O X X X O . | $$ | . . . X X X X X O X . O X O O X O 4 2 | $$ | . . X . . X O O O X X X X O . X O 5 3 | $$ | . X X . X O O X X X . X O O X . X O . | $$ | . O X X X O X . X X X X X O O . X O 6 | $$ | . O X . O O O X X O X X O . O O X Y . | $$ | . . O X X O O O O O . O X O X X . X . | $$ | . . O . X X X O . O . O X O . O X . . | $$ | . O . O X O O O O X X X X X X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X . . . O X O . . Q Q X Q . | $$ | . X X O . . . . 1 . . . . X . . Q . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
If White tries to start a capturing race with & , Black will win.
And if White somehow saves the lower-right group, she will still be behind on points.
MW seemed to be in a dark place for much of this later part of the game, so I'm not sure how much you should read into his plan to gain something 'game-winning' from harassing the center group.
It happens often. MW is in a losing position, he stops speaking much and plays many moves. Then with his feeling and intuition he sees the flicker of a candle at the end of a long-hall, gets excited and posts his uplifted thoughts of a possible outcome. Some of this and some of that happens, he gains a small outcome, and... well this leads us to where we are now.
lovelove, on the other hard, was just wanting to finish up the game -- so he hasn't been playing to 'not let MW get away with anything' or 'find the perfect move.' Because of his large lead he was mostly indifferent to the outcome of whether White's center group lived or not. Of course he's still being wisely careful...
A slight victory to MW, an indifference to lovelove. Ah, life.
No intention of hurt or offense to the players (where's the hug smiley?)
Re: Magicwand vs Lovelove
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:40 am
by Magicwand
T11
$$Bcm241 white : 14 black : 8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X X | $$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X X X . O | $$ | . . O O O X O . X X O O X O O O X . O | $$ | . . X . . X O O O O X O X X O X X X O | $$ | . . X O O X O X O . X O X O O X X O . | $$ | . O O X X X O X X O O O X X O O O O O | $$ | . . . X O O O O X X X O X O X X X O . | $$ | . . . X X X X X O X . O X O O X O . 2 | $$ | . . X . . X O O O X X X X O . X O . . | $$ | . X X . X O O X X X . X O O X . X O . | $$ | . O X X X O X . X X X X X O O . X O . | $$ | . O X . O O O X X O X X O . O O X X . | $$ | . . O X X O O O O O . O X O X X . X . | $$ | . . O . X X X O . O . O X O . O X . . | $$ | . O . O X O O O O X 1 X X X X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X . . . O X O . . O O X O . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm241 white : 14 black : 8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X X | $$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X X X . O | $$ | . . O O O X O . X X O O X O O O X . O | $$ | . . X . . X O O O O X O X X O X X X O | $$ | . . X O O X O X O . X O X O O X X O . | $$ | . O O X X X O X X O O O X X O O O O O | $$ | . . . X O O O O X X X O X O X X X O . | $$ | . . . X X X X X O X . O X O O X O . 2 | $$ | . . X . . X O O O X X X X O . X O . . | $$ | . X X . X O O X X X . X O O X . X O . | $$ | . O X X X O X . X X X X X O O . X O . | $$ | . O X . O O O X X O X X O . O O X X . | $$ | . . O X X O O O O O . O X O X X . X . | $$ | . . O . X X X O . O . O X O . O X . . | $$ | . O . O X O O O O X 1 X X X X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X . . . O X O . . O O X O . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
near the end...
Re: Magicwand vs Lovelove
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:48 am
by lovelove
$$Bcm241 white : 14 black : 8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X X | $$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X X X . O | $$ | . . O O O X O . X X O O X O O O X . O | $$ | . . X . . X O O O O X O X X O X X X O | $$ | . . X O O X O X O . X O X O O X X O . | $$ | . O O X X X O X X O O O X X O O O O O | $$ | . . . X O O O O X X X O X O X X X O . | $$ | . . . X X X X X O X . O X O O X O . O | $$ | . . X . . X O O O X X X X O . X O . . | $$ | . X X . X O O X X X . X O O X . X O . | $$ | . O X X X O X . X X X X X O O . X O . | $$ | . O X . O O O X X O X X O . O O X X . | $$ | . . O X X O O O O O . O X O X X . X . | $$ | . . O . X X X O . O . O X O . O X . . | $$ | . O . O X O O O O X X X X X X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X . . . O X O . . O O X O . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . 3 . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm241 white : 14 black : 8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X X | $$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X X X . O | $$ | . . O O O X O . X X O O X O O O X . O | $$ | . . X . . X O O O O X O X X O X X X O | $$ | . . X O O X O X O . X O X O O X X O . | $$ | . O O X X X O X X O O O X X O O O O O | $$ | . . . X O O O O X X X O X O X X X O . | $$ | . . . X X X X X O X . O X O O X O . O | $$ | . . X . . X O O O X X X X O . X O . . | $$ | . X X . X O O X X X . X O O X . X O . | $$ | . O X X X O X . X X X X X O O . X O . | $$ | . O X . O O O X X O X X O . O O X X . | $$ | . . O X X O O O O O . O X O X X . X . | $$ | . . O . X X X O . O . O X O . O X . . | $$ | . O . O X O O O O X X X X X X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X . . . O X O . . O O X O . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . 3 . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Magicwand, why are you still playing? Is there something I don't see?
Re: Magicwand vs Lovelove
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:52 am
by Magicwand
i resign thank you.
Re: Magicwand vs Lovelove
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:56 am
by lovelove
Thank you
Re: Magicwand vs Lovelove
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:00 am
by Magicwand
Sorry about bad game everyone.. I made few easy mistake and had to play catchup. I am wondering..if i played S7 first and secure the life in sente then..i might have had chance to comeback. probably not...but it would have been closer..
& 
, Black will win.
(where's the hug smiley?)