98. Araban vs. Magicwand

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Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand

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[go]$$Bcm101 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . X O . . . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X X X X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . O O . . . 4 . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X O O . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X X X . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


i will get my moves in before breakfast.
i usually dont play like this unless i am confident that i can kill.
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Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand

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My prediction:
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[go]$$Bcm101
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . X O . . . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X X X X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . a . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . O O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X O O . . . b O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X X X 5 O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


With 105 black gets an eye, and if white caps with something like 'a', black 'b' either escapes to the right or gets the second eye.
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Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand

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Sorry, been busy with schoolwork (if anyone knows a thing or two about stochastic processes for financial math, let me know! :P). It's also finals week.
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[go]$$Bcm101 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . X O . . . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X X X X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . 5 . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . O O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X O O . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X X X . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I've just got to wait until the storm subsides and hopefully, by the end of the storm, have two stabilized groups. :b5: just tries to move out one of them. He will probably just try to put pressure on one until it settles, then use whatever he's gained in that attack to go for the other group. He could also, of course, go back and forth in attacking one group or the other. But whatever it'll end eventually, one way or the other.
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Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand

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Sol..that was my major.
i passed 3 acturial exam when i was in college. namely 100(cal), 110(prob), 120(stat inferance).
but i dont think i can help you now..it's been too long :D

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[go]$$Bcm101 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . X O . . . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X X X X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . O O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . 6 . . . . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X O O . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X X X . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


probe. a or b? i suspect he will answer b.
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[go]$$Bcm101 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . X O . . . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X X X X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X X X a X . O O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . 6 . b . . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X O O . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X X X . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


edit:
after some reading...probably "b"
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[go]$$Bcm101 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . X O . . . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X X X X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X X X a X . O O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . 6 b . . . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X O O . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X X X . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand

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for obs only:
after he answer i will probe as below.
if he insist on separating my group i will connect and threaten his life.
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[go]$$Bcm101 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . X O . . . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X X X X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . O O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . 6 7 9 . . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X 0 8 X O O . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X X X . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


if he let me connect then i will have a or b selection.
i dont think there is any way he can get out for free.
after i build my influence in sente i will invade in 'c' instead of taking corner.
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[go]$$Bcm101 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . X O . . . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . c . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X X X X . O . . b . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . O O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O a 6 7 0 . . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X 9 8 X O O . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X X X . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand

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for obs only:
his jump has a weakness. if my group is connected then i can go after that weakness as below.
that is why he can not answer my peep.
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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . X O . . . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . 2 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X X X X . O . . . 1 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X a . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X X X B X . O O 5 3 4 O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . W . . . . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X O O . b . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X X X . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . X O . . . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O . . . . 2 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X X X X . O . . . 1 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , b X . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X X X B X . O O 4 3 7 O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . W . . . . X a X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X O O 5 6 . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X X X . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand

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Wow, nice commentary on your last move. Magicwand!

Very interesting stuff too -- I agree that tons and tons of diagrams can just be overwhelming sometimes, but those comments are really nice. This whole game has been superb from both players, really, but especially Magicwand seems to have gone above and beyond this time.
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ethanb wrote:Wow, nice commentary on your last move. Magicwand!

Very interesting stuff too -- I agree that tons and tons of diagrams can just be overwhelming sometimes, but those comments are really nice. This whole game has been superb from both players, really, but especially Magicwand seems to have gone above and beyond this time.


thank you very much.

i have noticed that when i play handycap game i dont really concentrate much as this game.
for the futur i think i will stick to even game because it force me to think to my maximum potential.

i will keep the quality of my comment very high.
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Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand

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ethanb wrote:Wow, nice commentary on your last move. Magicwand!

Very interesting stuff too -- I agree that tons and tons of diagrams can just be overwhelming sometimes, but those comments are really nice. This whole game has been superb from both players, really, but especially Magicwand seems to have gone above and beyond this time.


If I was Araban now, I would die from curiosity. I could probably not keep myself from looking at MWs comment. Not for cheating but just out of curiosity :)
That's one of the reasons why I am reluctant to play malkovich games.

But that one is a very interesting game indeed.
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entropi wrote:.
ethanb wrote:Wow, nice commentary on your last move. Magicwand!

Very interesting stuff too -- I agree that tons and tons of diagrams can just be overwhelming sometimes, but those comments are really nice. This whole game has been superb from both players, really, but especially Magicwand seems to have gone above and beyond this time.


If I was Araban now, I would die from curiosity. I could probably not keep myself from looking at MWs comment. Not for cheating but just out of curiosity :)
That's one of the reasons why I am reluctant to play malkovich games.

But that one is a very interesting game indeed.


i am sure my opponent is strong enough to guess what is in my hidden.
i believe that he reads everything that i read.
although i am curious why he played some moves i didnt expect...
i will find out soon enough.
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Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand

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Magicwand wrote:thank you very much.

i have noticed that when i play handycap game i dont really concentrate much as this game.
for the futur i think i will stick to even game because it force me to think to my maximum potential.

i will keep the quality of my comment very high.


It does clearly show. (I've noticed the lack of hide tags in my game vs Magicwand)
usually just one very inspired player in a malkovich game and only the really good ones have both.
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Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand

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I think I'm going to die from energy drink intoxication due to exam studying.
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[go]$$Bcm101 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . X O . . . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O 7 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X X X X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . O O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X O O . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X X X . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Okay, so this was a bit of a dilemma. If I want to live, I need to respond to W's last move to ensure I have enough eyespace to make two eyes. In an ideal world, I'd...

* Save H7 which keeps aji on both of his groups.
* Be guaranteed life for both groups.
* Not be sealed in.

Unfortunately we don't live in an ideal world so I need to pick and choose with what I can do here. After some pondering, I've decided that moving out is higher priority than living here*. Of course if he responds to my move to try and keep me sealed in, I can always change my mind later but my mindset is on moving out here while putting my life on the line because, by not responding to his move, my eyespace is pretty much ruined.

* After watching some zombie films, I can't help but be reminded of movie scenes where the survivors need to decide between moving out to find food and supplies, or to stay where they are and hope help arrives soon.
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Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand

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[go]$$Bcm101 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . X O . . . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X X X X . O . . . 8 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . O O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X O O . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X X X . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand

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I cannot wait for your next move, Araban. No more games but go, pls ;-)
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Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand

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cyclops wrote:I cannot wait for your next move, Araban. No more games but go, pls ;-)
:). I just finished my last final exam yesterday, so I'm sorry everyone for the delay. Strangely enough, I did better on my stochastic calculus class than in my intro psychology class...

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[go]$$Bcm101 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . X O . . . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X . . . 9 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X X X X . O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . O O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X O O . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X X X . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I can't let any of my groups get sealed in, so this move is a must. For those who don't realize the value of this move, picture White playing here. How can Black live now?
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