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Re: beginner getting destroyed

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:22 am
by Zwergesel
Harleqin wrote:Your starting move is right, but White can get a better result after that (at least pointwise).

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[go]$$B
$$ -----------
$$ | . O . 2 . |
$$ | X X b O 1 |
$$ | O O O O a |
$$ | X X X X X |
$$ | . . . O . |
$$ -----------[/go]

a and b are miai for life.

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[go]$$B
$$ -----------
$$ | 6 O . 2 5 |
$$ | X X 4 O 1 |
$$ | O O O O 3 |
$$ | X X X X X |
$$ | . . . O . |
$$ -----------[/go]

Black wins by 1 point.


At first I thought this one was correct. Can you see how white refutes it? :)
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[go]$$B
$$ -----------
$$ | . O . 1 . |
$$ | X X . O . |
$$ | O O O O . |
$$ | X X X X X |
$$ | . . . O . |
$$ -----------[/go]

Re: beginner getting destroyed

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:00 am
by Joaz Banbeck
Suji wrote:I'm going to have to think about this. How close did I actually come to the right answer on a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being solved?


The scale is from 0 to 1. :D

Re: beginner getting destroyed

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:17 am
by Li Kao
Zwergesel wrote:At first I thought this one was correct. Can you see how white refutes it? :)
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[go]$$B
$$ -----------
$$ | . O . 1 . |
$$ | X X . O . |
$$ | O O O O . |
$$ | X X X X X |
$$ | . . . O . |
$$ -----------[/go]

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[go]$$B
$$ -----------
$$ | . O . 1 . |
$$ | X X . O 2 |
$$ | O O O O . |
$$ | X X X X X |
$$ | . . . O . |
$$ -----------[/go]

no idea what b wants to do now

Re: beginner getting destroyed

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:15 pm
by MarcoRosso
Use igowin, beat it to the ground, then move on to 13x13 and finally 19x19. It takes a bit, but if u can get igowin below 10 kyu then its about time to play on a 19x19 board.

Re: beginner getting destroyed

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:35 pm
by karaklis
Li Kao wrote:
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[go]$$B
$$ -----------
$$ | . O . 1 . |
$$ | X X . O 2 |
$$ | O O O O . |
$$ | X X X X X |
$$ | . . . O . |
$$ -----------[/go]

no idea what b wants to do now


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[go]$$B
$$ -----------
$$ | . O . 1 a |
$$ | X X 3 O 2 |
$$ | O O O O . |
$$ | X X X X X |
$$ | . . . O . |
$$ -----------[/go]

White cannot attack at a due to lack of liberties.

Re: beginner getting destroyed

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:37 pm
by daniel_the_smith
karaklis wrote:
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[go]$$B
$$ -----------
$$ | . O . 1 a |
$$ | X X 3 O 2 |
$$ | O O O O . |
$$ | X X X X X |
$$ | . . . O . |
$$ -----------[/go]

White cannot attack at a due to lack of liberties.


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[go]$$B
$$ -----------
$$ | . O 4 1 a |
$$ | X X 3 O 2 |
$$ | O O O O . |
$$ | X X X X X |
$$ | . . . O . |
$$ -----------[/go]

Re: beginner getting destroyed

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:00 am
by entropi
fadasa wrote:"If I go here, he'll go there".


Whether it is meant as a joke or not, I say a big YES! This is the first skill to learn, thinking like that for every single move from move 1 until the very last move.
This is in fact nothing else than "reading". While it seems so obvious, whenever I try to teach a beginner I recognize they often do not even try to read just one move ahead. If you think like that every single move, you will get a couple of stones stronger in no time.