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Re: 2016 Samsung Cup

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:08 am
by Uberdude
Is Yu Bin still the head coach of the Chinese weiqi team? Perhaps all that contact and training with the top young players also keeps him sharp. He won the 4th LG cup back in 2000 and the Asian TV cup in 2004 and 1997.

Re: 2016 Samsung Cup

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:03 am
by dhu163
I've heard a few times on Chinese pro game commentaries, how Yu Bin is the (only) late bloomer.

along with saying how the Chinese city A league is getting younger and younger, how shocking it is that Gu Li at 33 is now an oldie (the oldest player there)

Re: 2016 Samsung Cup

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:12 am
by emeraldemon
Ida had to resign after only 94 moves. He lost a big clump of stones.

Re: 2016 Samsung Cup

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:33 am
by xiayun
The round of 16 draws:

Lee Sedol vs. Tong Mengcheng
Lee Donghoon vs. Ke Jie

Byun Sangil vs. Zhou Ruiyang
Tang Weixing vs. Fan Tingyu

Shin Jinseo vs. Fan Yunruo
Kang Seungmin vs. Tan Xiao

Kang Dongyoon vs. Tuo Jiaxi
Park Junghwan vs. Yu Bin

Ke and Park got drawn into the opposite halves for once.

Re: 2016 Samsung Cup

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 10:38 am
by xiayun
Coming up next:

Round of 16 - 10/4/16
Round of 8 - 10/6/16

Re: 2016 Samsung Cup

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 10:44 am
by idontgetit
i predict park junghwan will beat yu bin

Re: 2016 Samsung Cup

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:29 pm
by trout
Round of 16;

Ke Jie defeated Lee Donghoon by resign.
Tuo Jiaxi defeated Kang Dongyoon by resign.
Tan Xiao defeated Kang Seungmin by resign.
Park Junghwan defeated Yu Bin by resign.
Tang Weixing defeated Fan Tingyu by resign.
Zhou Ruiyang defeated Byun Sangil by resign.
Lee Sedol defeated Tong Mengcheng by resign.
Fan Yunruo defeated Shin Jinseo by resign.

Re: 2016 Samsung Cup

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:47 pm
by Uberdude
Ke Jie's game was rather weird: it's like he said "komi is big, I win, let's start the yose" at move 60.

Re: 2016 Samsung Cup

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:57 pm
by xiayun
KJ certainly didn't give Donghoon much of a chance in that game; very well played.

Tan Xiao just won, same for Park Junghwan. No surprise so far. And Tang always seems to perform well here, beating Nongshim Cup star Fan Tingyu to advance.

Re: 2016 Samsung Cup

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 11:45 pm
by kimidori
Bad day for Korea. Only 2 games left, and only Park JH has won so far.

Re: 2016 Samsung Cup

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 11:48 pm
by xiayun
kimidori wrote:Bad day for Korea. Only 2 games left, and only Park JH has won so far.
It has been the trend for Korea this year in international tournaments: Park and Shin and nobody else.

Re: 2016 Samsung Cup

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:02 am
by idontgetit
not really... 5-3 is expected. It would be a bad day for China if China lost more than that.

EDIT:

Wow, nice comeback by Fan yunruo! Especially that tesuji at the end! wow! (or maybe shin jinseo played a spoon)

Re: 2016 Samsung Cup

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:21 am
by kimidori
Well, 6-2 is the final result.

It seems like Fan Yuruo catches Shin in surprise in the end with a L&D? It's hard to believe that such a thing can happen in a top pro game.

It's not seki, half of W group is dead.

Edit: But if W connects at S14 instead of S15 for the last W move, I don't see what could B really do there?

Re: 2016 Samsung Cup

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:27 am
by idontgetit
yeah, i'm dumb.

I think if w connects, black gets a few extra points because w has to take black stones, right? But from what I can see, white would still win by 0.5 after playing it out on the board.

Re: 2016 Samsung Cup

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:35 am
by kimidori
I've played it out. And it seems that if Shin needs to take 2 more moves to answer that group, he would lose by 0.5 (I use Japanese counting, komi 6.5). Probably that's why he did that to resign? Pro certainly can't mess up this L&D.