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which diagram format do you like better?

Option 1
12
50%
Option 2
5
21%
Option 3
6
25%
Option 4
1
4%
 
Total votes: 24

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Post by EdLee »

Hi Kirby, Tom,

Speaking of user preference: how about keep all 4 options available for each individual diagram, for all users ? :)

This way, if a user doesn't specify any style in particular, it's the default (whatever people vote for; I still vote for Option 1. :) )

But, a user can still pick which option to use, for each individual diagram.
This way, a user does not have to use the same option for all their diagrams ( even though it's changeable in preference ).

One downside is it means creating new [go] tags, one for each new option: [go] (default), [go1], [go2], [go3], etc.
Or, new diagram style tags, etc. :)

If this is implemented, a bonus is a user can use one style (e.g. Option 1) for the main game,
and another style (e.g. Option 2) for all the variations.
This is similar to the convention(s) used by some publications: big diagrams for the real game, smaller diagram(s) for all variations.

Very useful not just for Malkovich games, but for all discussions, I feel. :)

Real game:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go-beta]$$B Real game
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 4 . . . . . , . . . . . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 2 . . . . . , . . . . . 3 . . . |
$$ | . . 8 . . 5 . . 9 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go-beta]

Variation 1:
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[go-beta]$$B Variation 1.
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 3 O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . 1 2 8 X . W . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 7 5 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go-beta]

Bug ?
Kirby, is there a bug with the $$W ?
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[go-beta]$$W Bug ?
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 0 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 4 O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . 2 3 9 X . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 8 6 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go-beta]

Above: bug ? Below: the current (expected) behavior with $$W :
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[go]$$W
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 0 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 4 O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . 2 3 9 X . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 8 6 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: which diagram format do you like better?

Post by Kirby »

Yes, that's a bug. There is still some work to do on the new ones.

If we actually want to pursue the other formats, I should look into making the letters and numbers more readable and make the lines crisper as has been suggested.

If we want full customization, we can provide multiple tags like you suggest, Ed, as well as an override option in the user control panel. The full functionality needs to be implemented for all diagrams, and I need to fix bugs like what you identified.

This is all feasible and not too hard, but it would be good to know if it's a forum feature that people would use before doing all of this.
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Post by EdLee »

This is all feasible and not too hard, but it would be good to know if it's a forum feature that people would use before doing all of this.
Hi Kirby,

I like:
  • Anti-aliased circles/slanted lines ( beta ) ;
  • Crisp, 1-pixel width, grid lines ( current default ) ;
  • Option 1 & Option 2 ( beta ) ;
  • More readable numbers and letters ( beta ) ;
  • Prettier, solid, star points ( beta ) ;

I'd happily use all of the above. :)
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Re: which diagram format do you like better?

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This morning option four looks like this on my iPad. I don't remember it being this dark yesterday when I first saw the OP.
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Edit: The photo is from Chrome, it looks normal (wood) in Safari.
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Re: which diagram format do you like better?

Post by Kirby »

ez4u,
That's because I haven't fixed the image texture preloading. In my own browser, it is black like that until I resubmit the post I am making. I haven't looked at fixing it since the texture doesn't seem popular anyway.

What you saw earlier was likely the screenshot image I took.

Ed,
I can implement what you described. I'll take a look into doing it shortly.
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Re: which diagram format do you like better?

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Kirby, if I were the guy who is easily speechless then I’d be speechless :•)
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