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Re: Tsumegos from real games

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 11:28 am
by Knotwilg
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[go]$$W White to play
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . 4 2 3 X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O O O X X X X O O . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . X X B O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , X O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . B O X X 6 O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O 7 O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X X X X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O O X O X O W X O O X |
$$ | . . . X O . . . O X . X O . O X O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O O O X X . . . . W X X X 1 |
$$ | . . X O . X X O X O . O O O O O O O 5 |
$$ | . . X O . . . X X O . . X X X X O . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . X . O X . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O , O X . . . O . . O X X O . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X X X O . X O X O O . . . |
$$ | . X . X . O X . X O X . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . . . X O O . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
The marked stones are outside liberties, incidental to the problem/
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[go]$$B continuation
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X O X 4 X X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O O O X X X X O O . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . X X B O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , X O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . B O . 1 3 O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X X X X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O O X O X O W X O O X |
$$ | . . . X O . . . O X . X O . O X O X 2 |
$$ | . . X O . O O O X X . . . . W X X X O |
$$ | . . X O . X X O X O . O O O O O O O O |
$$ | . . X O . . . X X O . . X X X X O . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . X . O X . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O , O X . . . O . . O X X O . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X X X O . X O X O O . . . |
$$ | . X . X . O X . X O X . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . . . X O O . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
White takes first
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[go]$$W White to play
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . 4 1 8 X 6 X X 9 X 7 . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X O O O X X X X O O . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . X X B O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , X O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . B O X X . O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X X X X O O 5 |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O O X O X O W X O O X |
$$ | . . . X O . . . O X . X O . O X O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O O O X X . . . . W X X X 2 |
$$ | . . X O . X X O X O . O O O O O O O 3 |
$$ | . . X O . . . X X O . . X X X X O . . |
$$ | . X O O O X . X . O X . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O , O X . . . O . . O X X O . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X X X O . X O X O O . . . |
$$ | . X . X . O X . X O X . X . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . . . X O O . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
White will always take a ko to prevent Black from connecting.
Edited diagram 2, voiding jlt's next comment

Re: Tsumegos from real games

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 1:26 pm
by jlt
Knotwilg, you mistyped what you had in mind in diagram 2 since there are two :w2: on the board and :b7: on an intersection that is already occupied by a white stone.

Anyway I think that :w1: starting from your diagram 1 leads to a ko (this is what happened in my game), while :w1: in your diagram 3 is the correct move, White wins the semeai without needing to fight a ko.

Re: Tsumegos from real games

Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 11:42 am
by jlt
Problem #8: Black to play. Can Black save the marked stone?
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[go]$$Bc Black to play
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . O . B O . . . . , . . O X O X . . . |
$$ | O . O O X O . . . . . O . X O X . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . . . X . X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Tsumegos from real games

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:38 am
by jlt
Possible variation:
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[go]$$Bc Black to play
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 7 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 4 . . 5 O . . . . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . O 1 B O 6 . . . , . . O X O X . . . |
$$ | O 2 O O X O . . . . . O . X O X . . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . . . X . X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]

Re: Tsumegos from real games

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:48 am
by jlt
Problem #9. I was Black in this game. Between moves 50 and 130 I thought that I had killed the upper left corner. Probably White thought the same as well, as he didn't try to live. When he finally made an attempt at move 130, he didn't make the correct choice.

White to play and save the marked stones.
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[go]$$Wc White to play and save the marked stones
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X . X O . . . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . . X . O X X O O . O O O X X X . |
$$ | . . W W X . . O O , . . . X X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . X O . . X . X O O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X X O . . . . X X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X O . . . X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . O . , . O . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . O X O O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . X O X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O O . X . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O X X O O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X X O X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Tsumegos from real games

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:38 am
by Knotwilg
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[go]$$Wc White to play and save the marked stones
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . 1 . a . . X X . X O . . . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . . X . O X X O O . O O O X X X . |
$$ | . . W W X . . O O , . . . X X X O X . |
$$ | . b . . . . O . X O . . X . X O O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X X O . . . . X X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X O . . . X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . O . , . O . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . O X O O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . X O X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O O . X . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O X X O O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X X O X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Does :w1: make miai of A and B?

Re: Tsumegos from real games

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:58 am
by jlt
Not sure.
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . 1 . 3 4 . X X . X O . . . O X . O . |
$$ | . . . . X . O X X O O . O O O X X X . |
$$ | . . W W X . . O O , . . . X X X O X . |
$$ | . 2 . . . . O . X O . . X . X O O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X X O . . . . X X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |[/go]
and then?
This seems to lead to a ko
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . 8 9 . . . . . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | 0 1 . 3 4 . X X . X O . . . O X . O . |
$$ | . 6 . 5 X . O X X O O . O O O X X X . |
$$ | . 7 W W X . . O O , . . . X X X O X . |
$$ | . 2 . . . . O . X O . . X . X O O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X X O . . . . X X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |[/go]
Katago suggests another move
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | 9 . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | 6 5 . 1 3 4 X X . X O . . . O X . O . |
$$ | . 7 . 8 X . O X X O O . O O O X X X . |
$$ | . . W W X . . O O , . . . X X X O X . |
$$ | . 2 . . . . O . X O . . X . X O O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X X O . . . . X X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |[/go]
It is really necessary for Black to block at :4:, otherwise a variation like this can happen:
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . 8 . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . 1 3 5 X X . X O . . . O X . O . |
$$ | . 4 . . X 6 O X X O O . O O O X X X . |
$$ | . . W W X . 7 O O , . . . X X X O X . |
$$ | . 2 . . 9 . O . X O . . X . X O O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X X O . . . . X X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |[/go]

Re: Tsumegos from real games

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:02 pm
by jlt
Problem #10, White to play. What is the status of the C10 group?
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[go]$$Wc White to play
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . O O . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . X . . . O O O X O X . . |
$$ | X O O O X X . . . , . O X X X X . X . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . O O . X O O . . |
$$ | . O . . O X . X . X . O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . O O O X . . . . X . . . O O . . . |
$$ | X . O X O O . O X X . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O X X O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | O O X X X . X O O O . . O O O O . X . |
$$ | . X X . . X . . X O O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . O X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O O O . O . . . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . O O . . . . X . O |
$$ | . . X O X O X X . , X O . X O O X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . X O . X X O O . O |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . X X O X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Tsumegos from real games

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:37 pm
by jlt
Answer:
It's a ko.
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . O O . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . X . . . O O O X O X . . |
$$ | X O O O X X . . . , . O X X X X . X . |
$$ | 2 X X . . . . . . . X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | 1 5 X . X . . . . . . O O . X O O . . |
$$ | 8 O 7 . O X . X . X . O X X . O X . . |
$$ | 3 6 O O O X . . . . X . . . O O . . . |
$$ | X 4 O X O O . O X X . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . O X X O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | O O X X X . X O O O . . O O O O . X . |
$$ | . X X . . X . . X O O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . O X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O O O O . O . . . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . O O . . . . X . O |
$$ | . . X O X O X X . , X O . X O O X O . |
$$ | . . O O X X . . X . X O . X X O O . O |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . X X O X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
White has local ko threats: capture A16 or capture F13.

In order to live, White just needs to ignore one ko threat and then can live with B10: after :w9: ko threat, :b10: responds, :w11: takes ko, :b12: ko threat, then White is alive (if Black a then White b).
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[go]$$Wm11
$$ | X X X . . . . . . . X O . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X . X . . . . . . O O . X O O . . |
$$ | a O O . O X . X . X . O X X . O X . . |
$$ | 1 X O O O X . . . . X . . . O O . . . |
$$ | X X O X O O . O X X . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | b 3 O X O . O X X O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | O O X X X . X O O O . . O O O O . X . |
$$ | . X X . . X . . X O O O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . X . O X X . . . . X . . |[/go]
Move :w1: is interesting because go problems rarely teach us these kinds of moves. In most go problems, only one group is involved and we don't threaten to connect to another group before living locally.

Re: Tsumegos from real games

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:20 pm
by jlt
Problem #11, White to play.
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ------------
$$ . X . X . . |
$$ . X . . O . |
$$ X . . O . . |
$$ X . , X O . |
$$ X . . X O . |
$$ . . . O X . |
$$ . X . . X . |
$$ . . . . . . |[/go]

Re: Tsumegos from real games

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:19 pm
by Harleqin
Q18 seems to make miai.

Re: Tsumegos from real games

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 7:45 am
by jlt
Problem #12, Black to play. It seems that Black can kill and that both players (1k Tygem) missed that during all the game.
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[go]$$Bc Black to play
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . O X . X X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X X O O O O X X , O . O X . , . . . |
$$ | X . . X O X X O . O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Answer:
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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . O X . X X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X X O O O O X X , O 1 O X . , . . . |
$$ | X . . X O X X O . O . 2 O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X X X X . O . . 3 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Tsumegos from real games

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:48 am
by jlt
Problem #13: Black to play and kill the bottom group.
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[go]$$Bc Black to play
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O . . O X . . . X O . O O X |
$$ | . . X O . . O X O . X . . X X O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . O . , . . . X X X X . X |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . X O . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . X X X O . . . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X X X . O . X X . O X . . |
$$ | . X . X . X O X . O O X X . . O . O . |
$$ | . O X X X O O X X X O O X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O O O O . O X X O . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X X O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X X O O O . O X . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . X O O . O X . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . X X O O X . X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . O X X X X . . X X . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O . . . . X X O O . |
$$ | . O O X X X . . X . O X X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . O O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Answer:
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[go]$$Bc Answer
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O . . O X . . . X O . O O X |
$$ | . . X O . . O X O . X . . X X O O X . |
$$ | . . O X O O . O . , . . . X X X X . X |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . X O . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . X X X O . . . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X X X . O . X X . O X . . |
$$ | . X . X . X O X . O O X X . . O . O . |
$$ | . O X X X O O X X X O O X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . O O O O . O X X O . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X X O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X X O O O . O X . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . X O O . O X . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . X X O O X . X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . O X X X X . . X X . |
$$ | . . . O O X . . . O . . . . X X O O . |
$$ | . O O X X X . . X 1 O X X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O . O O . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Tsumegos from real games

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:35 am
by jlt
This ridiculous position is from a blitz game.

Problem #14: Black to play. Which group should Black choose to kill and how?
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[go]$$Bc Black to play
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . O . . X . X O . |
$$ | . X X O O O . . . . . . . X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . X X X O O O O . O . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X X O . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . X . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . O O X . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . O . . O X X O O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . X O O . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O X . . X O . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . X X . . . X . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . O . . . , X O . O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . X . O . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Answer:
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[go]$$Bc Answer
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . O . . X . X O . |
$$ | . X X O O O . . . . . . . X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . X X X O O O O . O . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . X X X O . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O . . . X . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . O O X . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . a . . . . X . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . O . . O X X O O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O . . . X O O . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O X . . X O . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . X X . . . X . b . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . O . . . , X O . O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . . X . O . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
"a" kills a bigger group than "b".

Re: Tsumegos from real games

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:35 am
by jlt
Problem #15: Black to play. What is the status of the lower right corner?
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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . . . . O O X O O X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . O , O X X . X X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . O . . . O . O X X . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . X X X . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . O X . . X O . O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O . X . . O O O O O . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O O O . . O X X X O O . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . X X X . . O . . . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . X O X O X . X X . . . . . . X O O X |
$$ | . O O O X X . O X . X X O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . X . X X O X X X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . O O O O . X X X X O . |
$$ | . . X X O O O O . . . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . . X X X O . . . . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bc Ko
$$ | . X O X O X . X X . . . . . . X O O X |
$$ | . O O O X X . O X . X X O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . X . X X O X X X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . O O O O . X X X X O . |
$$ | . . X X O O O O . . . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . . X X X O . . . . . . X O . 2 1 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . O . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]