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Posted: **Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:54 pm**

Game 11 (NZ rules, 7 komi) is back to messy and complicated. Very alien-looking to me. Black by 10 points or so. https://online-go.com/review/457391

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Check out the symmetry in the lower left! $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X O X . . . . . X . O . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . X X O . O . X . . . | $$ | . O . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . O X O . . . . . X X X . . . | $$ | . . B . O X O O . . . . O O X O X . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Posted: **Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:54 pm**

Game 12 (NZ rules, 7 komi) is probably my favourite game in this thread so far. The fuseki looks like drunk humans playing, and after that it's just one breathtaking magic trick after another - to end in only our second tie so far. Beautiful game. https://online-go.com/review/458154

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Fourteen other games will also continue at P4. Games 7, 8 and 23 continue at a instead. $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . a . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:16 pm**

Game 13 (NZ rules, 7 komi) ends up with huge territories on both sides, yet very close (looks like white by 2 points). https://online-go.com/review/459574

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Games 12, 14 and 17 continue at a instead of Q5. $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . a . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . X . . . X . O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Posted: **Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:07 pm**

Game 14 (NZ rules, 7 komi) was a complicated game with small territories and a confusing endgame that ended up as our third tie. https://online-go.com/review/460430

Our current tally: 4 black wins, 3 ties, 7 white wins.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc Game 17 will also continue at C9. Game 12 continued at a instead. $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . a . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . X . . . X . O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . O . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Posted: **Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:40 pm**

KataGo continuing from an AlphaGo Teach position, game 11: Black not only goes for vast amounts of influence, but actually uses it to build a giant center territory. White takes three and a half corners and wins by 2.5 points or so. https://online-go.com/review/441359

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc AlphaGo Teach's opening (white 55 %) $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . X . . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X O O X . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O O X X . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . X . . O . . O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Posted: **Sun Apr 19, 2020 4:10 pm**

Game 15 (NZ rules, 7 komi) was another complicated game. A lot of small groups, including an early-game seki. The winrate stayed even throughout until black crashed at move 225. https://online-go.com/review/465809

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Four games continued at a instead of C14. Eleven games will continue at b. $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . a . . . X . O . . | $$ | . . . . . b . . . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Posted: **Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:33 am**

Game 16 (NZ rules, 7 komi) sees black going for max influence and building a giant center moyo. White grabs a huge bottom, sacrifices a group of 20 stones in exchange for the privilege to linearly reduce black's moyo to nothing, and wins by 10 points or so. https://online-go.com/review/466797

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Game 15 continued at a instead of G7. $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . B . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . . X . . . . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . O . . . X O . . . X . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . a . . O . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Posted: **Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:17 pm**

Game 17 (NZ rules, 7 komi) starts out complicated, but then everything settles at once and the rest is endgame. White ends up with three corners, but black wins by 2 points or so. https://online-go.com/review/467380

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc Game 14 (which ended as a tie) continued at a instead of J5. $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . X O . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . W a . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . X . . . X . O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . O . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:17 pm**

Game 18 (NZ rules, 7 komi) was maybe the weirdest game in this thread so far. I won't pretend to understand anything that happened here. Can someone get Michael Redmond on the line? https://online-go.com/review/469244

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Game 21 also continues at H3. Games 19, 20, 35, 36 and 41 continue at a instead. $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . a . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . B . O . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Posted: **Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:44 pm**

Game 19 (NZ rules, 7 komi) starts off with a complicated fight on the lower side. As it sprawls out, it looks more like a game of tetris or battleship than a game of go. White wins by 8 points or so. https://online-go.com/demo/view/494668

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc Game 20 also continues at K5. Games 35, 36 and 41 will continue instead at a, b and c, respectively. $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . a W X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . c . b . . . X . O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:24 pm**

Game 20 (NZ rules, 7 komi) took the lower-side fight in a different direction. We have a new shortest game in the thread (166 moves). White slays black's dragon and wins by 54-ish points. https://online-go.com/demo/view/495091

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Game 19 continued at a instead of K2. $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . a . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . X X O O . . X . O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . X O . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . B . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Posted: **Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:46 am**

After some twists and turns, game 21 (NZ rules, 7 komi) ended up as our fourth tie. That brings our current tally to 6 black wins, 4 ties, 11 white wins. https://online-go.com/demo/view/497589

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Game 18 continued at a instead of M2. $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . a . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . X X O . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . X . O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . X . O . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . B . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Posted: **Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:39 pm**

Game 22 (NZ rules, 7 komi) was another breathtaking game (split off from game 18 like the three previous ones). At one point, it looks like white is going to get four corners with black building a center moyo. A bit later, it looks like there's going to be a huge trade in which each side sacrifices a large group. In the end, there are seven live groups on the board and white wins by four points or so. 224 out of 256 moves received more than 100,000 playouts. https://online-go.com/demo/view/499554

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Games 18 and 21 continued at a instead of M2. $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O O X . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . O a . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . X . O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . X . O . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . B . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Posted: **Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:04 am**

I split off game 23 (NZ rules, 7 komi) at move 36 of game 8, which saw black winning by 8 points or so. Game 23 turned into another giant center fight, but in a completely different direction, and became our fifth tie. This time I played out every move to the end. https://online-go.com/demo/view/500111

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc In game 8, white played at a instead of C16. $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . X . O . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . a O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . O X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X O O O O . . . . . . . . , . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O . . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Posted: **Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:06 am**

Game 24 (NZ rules, 7 komi) ends up with huge territories on both sides. For the longest time it looked like a tie, but white was one ko threat ahead in the endgame ko and won by 2 points. https://online-go.com/demo/view/501603

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